Rudolph or Fleener?

[dcr1984]

Who would you rather have long-term between Rudolph and Fleener?

[JohnnyFive]

I went Fleener, but its close. I don't think we will know until next year. I think they are both great candidates, and whoever you can get cheaper is the one I would go after.

[CokeAndBacardi]

Rudolph can do it all. Fleener needs to be Hernandez/Gonzalez/Gates special as a pass catcher because he sure as heck can't block. Give me Rudolph and its not close. The fact that Rudolph is a year younger with a year in the NFL doesn't hurt.

[Hjorimir]

I'd take Fleener, who I think is being underrated for his potential. He ran a 4.45 at 6'6" (only TE faster in the NFL is/was Vernon Davis), has an established bromance with Luck, and was drafted by Indianapolis to be a receiving threat. Add in the facts that only WR worth a damn on the Colts will be nearly 34 when the season starts and with a porous defense that will force the offense to throw all day long and you have a recipe for huge success.

[lifesyourcup]

Rudolph can do it all. Fleener needs to be Hernandez/Gonzalez/Gates special as a pass catcher because he sure as heck can't block. Give me Rudolph and its not close. The fact that Rudolph is a year younger with a year in the NFL doesn't hurt.

Fleener already is special as a pass catcher. Just watch the college tape.

[CokeAndBacardi]

Rudolph can do it all. Fleener needs to be Hernandez/Gonzalez/Gates special as a pass catcher because he sure as heck can't block. Give me Rudolph and its not close. The fact that Rudolph is a year younger with a year in the NFL doesn't hurt.

Fleener already is special as a college pass catcher. Just watch the tape.

Moving the word college. He has a great opportunity to be a solid receiving TE. I'm saying he needs to be a VERY GOOD NFL receiver. Otherwise, he has no role. Kind of like Tebow in a less difficult position. We knew he could run, but he needed to be a very good passer to justify being a QB and not an h-back. There's hope but neither are givens based solely on NCAAF production.

[lifesyourcup]

Rudolph can do it all. Fleener needs to be Hernandez/Gonzalez/Gates special as a pass catcher because he sure as heck can't block. Give me Rudolph and its not close. The fact that Rudolph is a year younger with a year in the NFL doesn't hurt.

Fleener already is special as a college pass catcher. Just watch the tape.

Moving the word college. He has a great opportunity to be a solid receiving TE. I'm saying he needs to be a VERY GOOD NFL receiver. Otherwise, he has no role. Kind of like Tebow in a less difficult position. We knew he could run, but he needed to be a very good passer to justify being a QB and not an h-back. There's hope but neither are givens based solely on NCAAF production.

By the time that happens, it will be too late. And I'm not basing my statement "solely on NCAAF production"; I'm basing it on that AND the video I just posted.

[meineymoe]

Location. Location. Location. The only reason Fleener is getting all this love is because of his situation.

Rudolph all the way.

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[CokeAndBacardi]

Fleener already is special as a college pass catcher. Just watch the tape.

Moving the word college. He has a great opportunity to be a solid receiving TE. I'm saying he needs to be a VERY GOOD NFL receiver. Otherwise, he has no role. Kind of like Tebow in a less difficult position. We knew he could run, but he needed to be a very good passer to justify being a QB and not an h-back. There's hope but neither are givens based solely on NCAAF production.

By the time that happens, it will be too late. And I'm not basing my statement "solely on NCAAF production"; I'm basing it on that AND the video I just posted.

The video you posted SHOWS Fleener's NCAAF production. This is going nowhere. All I am saying is that Fleener, like any college prospect, is not a lock to be a very good NFL talent. Due to his limitations in other facets of the game, he MUST be a well above average pass catcher at the NFL level. A few TEs drafted 2009 and 2010 with limitations in the blocking game: Jared Cook, Chase Coffman, Travis Beckum, Cornelius Ingram, Ed Dickson, Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez and Dorin Dickerson. See what I am getting at? Fleener was drafted higher than any of those guys and has his best bud at QB. Two great things. He needs to get into the Graham/Hernandez tier or he'll have trouble getting on the field like the others listed.

[Defender]

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[Steelersfan]

Fleener. His relationship with Luck may turn into something special...

[Defender]

I'm not even sure Rudolph will ever have a decent QB throwing to him... I like Fleener. Better immediate value. Long term doesn't look too shabby either.