H Henry vs Kupp

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H Henry vs Kupp

Postby Z$$$ » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:23 am

What’s the gap? What needs to be added?
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 5IDP
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11

16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
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Re: H Henry vs Kupp

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:34 am

Whoever solicits the trade should expect to add slightly.

In a total vacuum (i.e. in a startup), I'd expect Kupp to be valued a hair higher than Henry?
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: H Henry vs Kupp

Postby Z$$$ » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:58 am

I would be sending Kupp. I also value Kupp more. The Henry owner has 2.08. Is that a good enough value?
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 5IDP
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11

16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson

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Re: H Henry vs Kupp

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:20 pm

Z$$$ wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:58 am I would be sending Kupp. I also value Kupp more. The Henry owner has 2.08. Is that a good enough value?
Yeah I think Henry plus the 2.08 would be a very nice return for Kupp
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
/
TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: H Henry vs Kupp

Postby Titans95 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:51 pm

I think I'd prefer Kupp over Henry and getting a late 2nd may be fair but I have a hard time giving up players I prefer with the difference being a complete dart throw in the back of the 2nd round.

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Re: H Henry vs Kupp

Postby Z$$$ » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:06 pm

Titans95 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:51 pm I think I'd prefer Kupp over Henry and getting a late 2nd may be fair but I have a hard time giving up players I prefer with the difference being a complete dart throw in the back of the 2nd round.
I hear ya. TE is my biggest need. I do believe in Henry and own him in my Team 2. I’m kinda hoping he bounces back and turns into a Kittle type and can be a Top 4 TE.
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 5IDP
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11

16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson

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Re: H Henry vs Kupp

Postby Titans95 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:26 pm

Z$$$ wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:06 pm
Titans95 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:51 pm I think I'd prefer Kupp over Henry and getting a late 2nd may be fair but I have a hard time giving up players I prefer with the difference being a complete dart throw in the back of the 2nd round.
I hear ya. TE is my biggest need. I do believe in Henry and own him in my Team 2. I’m kinda hoping he bounces back and turns into a Kittle type and can be a Top 4 TE.
I hear ya, I just don't think you're so deep at WR that losing Kupp is negligible. We know Kupp can put up backend WR1 numbers when healthy, HH is still speculation at this point. I like him a lot too and have him in the tier with Engram/Howard/Njoku but I find it hard to think that his short term situation is all that great, KA and Mike Williams will likely be ahead of him on the pecking order and they have 2 amazing pass catching RB's and Rivers is getting up there in age.

if Hunter Henry turns into a perennial top 5 TE at the position this won't be too bad a trade but I'm skeptical. I like Kupp's connection with Goff long term and think he'll provide the most value. I honestly think Goedert is a cheaper version of HH just a year or so behind.


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