Guice vs Fournette
Guice vs Fournette
I've seen some people with different opinions on this, so which former LSU RB do you prefer and by how much?
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Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
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Re: Guice vs Fournette
Give me Guice. The gap probably isn't huge, but I prefer him straight up.
Re: Guice vs Fournette
Guice votes please explain why you value him higher than Fournette? I've seen a lot of people say this recently and I have no idea where this is coming from...when and why did we as a forum decide this? ADP and rankings still show Fournette comfortably ahead of Guice, so it seems like a "DLF forums" thing. Have you had Guice > Fournette since the draft or is this a recent thing? I could understand if Guice was playing well while Fournette was out, but given that both have been out almost all season it seems weird that a lot of people seem to have flipped from Fournette to Guice.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
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Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
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2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
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2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
Re: Guice vs Fournette
I dont think Id trade LF for Guice straight up, but I am super low on LF.
Guice value aside, I'll never own LF anywhere as owners just think he is temporarily hurt. They can be the ones that wait for him to put up 2 or 3 good weeks before he tweaks an ankle or hammy again. I'm not buying in and in a startup, I guarantee he goes before I think about him. Just my 2 cents.
Guice value aside, I'll never own LF anywhere as owners just think he is temporarily hurt. They can be the ones that wait for him to put up 2 or 3 good weeks before he tweaks an ankle or hammy again. I'm not buying in and in a startup, I guarantee he goes before I think about him. Just my 2 cents.
Re: Guice vs Fournette
I guess I just don't understand why we think Guice is much safer given that he was banged up all 2017 and tore his ACL in the preseason. Are the results of this poll saying "I don't like Fournette" or "I like Guice"?
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
Re: Guice vs Fournette
Probably both. I dont think an ACL tear means someone is injury prone
Re: Guice vs Fournette
Why do you like Fournette more? Just curious, not saying you shouldn't or that there's no reason not to like him more. I just prefer Guice because I think he's more versatile and doesn't rely on his size to just try and run people over. That style won't last very long and we've already seen Fournette deal with several injuries in his short time in the pros. Guice's ACL tear doesn't worry me one bit. Players come back in less than a year from it and don't lose a step, especially when they're still very young. Injuries aside, I've just never been as high on Fournette as others. He's obviously talented and will continue to produce when he's healthy, but I just prefer Guice and think he's more skills/talented.
Re: Guice vs Fournette
Top 5 draft pick; we know he's the focal point of Jags offense when healthy. Has shown that he can put up numbers in the NFL while healthy (top 10 RB last season in spite of missing time) and Guice has not. Also Guice was reportedly limited by injury all of last season, so it's more than just the ACL tear.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
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Re: Guice vs Fournette
Fournette, when healthy, has proven he can produce RB1 numbers in the NFL. They both have injury concerns, but It's easily Fournette for me. Guice has proven nothing, and has himself had 2 straight years of injury issues. Fournette can also help you this year, still. The voting numbers make no sense to me, but it doesn't surprise me, as I find most around here are super high on Guice.
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Re: Guice vs Fournette
He's does that all the time. Also, Guice had knee issues his final year of college, too. He's had 2 straight years of knee problems.Goddard wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:38 am Why do you like Fournette more? Just curious, not saying you shouldn't or that there's no reason not to like him more. I just prefer Guice because I think he's more versatile and doesn't rely on his size to just try and run people over. That style won't last very long and we've already seen Fournette deal with several injuries in his short time in the pros. Guice's ACL tear doesn't worry me one bit. Players come back in less than a year from it and don't lose a step, especially when they're still very young. Injuries aside, I've just never been as high on Fournette as others. He's obviously talented and will continue to produce when he's healthy, but I just prefer Guice and think he's more skills/talented.
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Re: Guice vs Fournette
I'd rather have LF on value alone but if we HAD to keep either RB on our own team for multiple years I'd probably lean Guice. Was never a huge fan of LF and his consistent injuries dating back to college have been the typical "injury prone" type of injuries vs freak accidents like ACL tears. With that being said Guice has also struggled with Knee issues his last year in college so he may very well be injury prone as well but as of right now his injuries worry me less than Fournette's.
As for talent despite the difference in draft position I don't think the talent level is night and day. I'd say LF is a better pure rusher but he's also on a mediocre offense and has been pretty inefficient that he's been able to offset by sheer volume and TD's. If looking at how successful AP is this year for the redskins I wouldn't be surprised if Guice is the come back player of the year next year. He's a great back that run's with anger. I also think he's more versatile than LF in that he is better in open space and will be a 50+ receptions a year type of back.
This is all just my opinion and can't really be backed up by anything as Guice hasn't played in the NFL. I'm just extremely low on LF's long-term outlook and think he will be the typical RB1 for 2-3 seasons and then be hurt on and off the rest of his career. Could very well be the same for Guice but there is some of that unknown appeal that he could be much much more.
If I could trade LF for Guice + 1st I would be thrilled with that type of trade.
As for talent despite the difference in draft position I don't think the talent level is night and day. I'd say LF is a better pure rusher but he's also on a mediocre offense and has been pretty inefficient that he's been able to offset by sheer volume and TD's. If looking at how successful AP is this year for the redskins I wouldn't be surprised if Guice is the come back player of the year next year. He's a great back that run's with anger. I also think he's more versatile than LF in that he is better in open space and will be a 50+ receptions a year type of back.
This is all just my opinion and can't really be backed up by anything as Guice hasn't played in the NFL. I'm just extremely low on LF's long-term outlook and think he will be the typical RB1 for 2-3 seasons and then be hurt on and off the rest of his career. Could very well be the same for Guice but there is some of that unknown appeal that he could be much much more.
If I could trade LF for Guice + 1st I would be thrilled with that type of trade.
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Re: Guice vs Fournette
Agree. I’ll never own LF.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:31 pm I dont think Id trade LF for Guice straight up, but I am super low on LF.
Guice value aside, I'll never own LF anywhere as owners just think he is temporarily hurt. They can be the ones that wait for him to put up 2 or 3 good weeks before he tweaks an ankle or hammy again. I'm not buying in and in a startup, I guarantee he goes before I think about him. Just my 2 cents.
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