Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

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Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby ajf235 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:15 pm

From a dynasty perspective, would you do this trade? Total rebuilding year in 2018 so think of it as their prospects only in 2019-2021.

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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:58 pm

I think Goff and Mahomes are fairly close and Chubb makes up that difference easily

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Postby VinniVidiVici » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:40 pm

Def Goff and Chubb for me
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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:02 pm

One QB League? Go Chubb and Goff.
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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby Titans95 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:08 pm

Chubb is worth more than Mahomes by himself if you ask me

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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby ajf235 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:17 pm

Titans95 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:08 pm Chubb is worth more than Mahomes by himself if you ask me
I was debating this trade prior to Jacksonville trading for Hyde. Luckily I made it as I doubt I'd get it now. Mahomes looks amazing still but if Chubb can be an RB1 it is well worth it. A little worried about his lack of pass game usage but he seems to be a beast at the goal line on an ascending team that could have a top notch defense relatively soon. My guess is that his floor is Jordan Howard and his ceiling is a top 5 RB1 workhorse if he can regain his 2014 form.

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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby Titans95 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:42 pm

ajf235 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:17 pm
Titans95 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:08 pm Chubb is worth more than Mahomes by himself if you ask me
I was debating this trade prior to Jacksonville trading for Hyde. Luckily I made it as I doubt I'd get it now. Mahomes looks amazing still but if Chubb can be an RB1 it is well worth it. A little worried about his lack of pass game usage but he seems to be a beast at the goal line on an ascending team that could have a top notch defense relatively soon. My guess is that his floor is Jordan Howard and his ceiling is a top 5 RB1 workhorse if he can regain his 2014 form.
It's hard to project a rookie's ceiling but he'll need to be getting 50-60 receptions per year if he wants to be in the top 5. I think Duke hampers that still.

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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby ajf235 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:01 pm

Titans95 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:42 pm
ajf235 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:17 pm
Titans95 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:08 pm Chubb is worth more than Mahomes by himself if you ask me
I was debating this trade prior to Jacksonville trading for Hyde. Luckily I made it as I doubt I'd get it now. Mahomes looks amazing still but if Chubb can be an RB1 it is well worth it. A little worried about his lack of pass game usage but he seems to be a beast at the goal line on an ascending team that could have a top notch defense relatively soon. My guess is that his floor is Jordan Howard and his ceiling is a top 5 RB1 workhorse if he can regain his 2014 form.
It's hard to project a rookie's ceiling but he'll need to be getting 50-60 receptions per year if he wants to be in the top 5. I think Duke hampers that still.
I'm talking long-term ceiling. He was the best RB in the country prior to tearing up his knee three years ago and appears to show a lot of that explosiveness from 2014 back. If he can reach that level again, I could see him being one of the better runners in the league and a touchdown machine, but yeah he's not getting 50-60 receptions per year with Duke there.

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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby Titans95 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:27 pm

ajf235 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:01 pm
Titans95 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:42 pm
ajf235 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:17 pm

I was debating this trade prior to Jacksonville trading for Hyde. Luckily I made it as I doubt I'd get it now. Mahomes looks amazing still but if Chubb can be an RB1 it is well worth it. A little worried about his lack of pass game usage but he seems to be a beast at the goal line on an ascending team that could have a top notch defense relatively soon. My guess is that his floor is Jordan Howard and his ceiling is a top 5 RB1 workhorse if he can regain his 2014 form.
It's hard to project a rookie's ceiling but he'll need to be getting 50-60 receptions per year if he wants to be in the top 5. I think Duke hampers that still.
I'm talking long-term ceiling. He was the best RB in the country prior to tearing up his knee three years ago and appears to show a lot of that explosiveness from 2014 back. If he can reach that level again, I could see him being one of the better runners in the league and a touchdown machine, but yeah he's not getting 50-60 receptions per year with Duke there.
I realize you were saying long-term. I was just making an observation Duke will need to leave town for that to happen. He just signed a 3-4 year deal I believe so it may be when chubb is 25-26 before he gets those receptions

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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby ajf235 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:53 pm

Titans95 wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:27 pm
ajf235 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:01 pm
Titans95 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:42 pm

It's hard to project a rookie's ceiling but he'll need to be getting 50-60 receptions per year if he wants to be in the top 5. I think Duke hampers that still.
I'm talking long-term ceiling. He was the best RB in the country prior to tearing up his knee three years ago and appears to show a lot of that explosiveness from 2014 back. If he can reach that level again, I could see him being one of the better runners in the league and a touchdown machine, but yeah he's not getting 50-60 receptions per year with Duke there.
I realize you were saying long-term. I was just making an observation Duke will need to leave town for that to happen. He just signed a 3-4 year deal I believe so it may be when chubb is 25-26 before he gets those receptions
Crowell had 41 receptions one year while sharing the backfield with Duke and Leonard Fournette was essentially a top 5 back on a per game basis last year. I don’t think it’s completely out of the question to see Chubb 275-300 Carries for 1,300 yards and 35-40 receptions for 300-350 yards and 10-12 TDs, even while splitting with Duke. He had a 66% snap share last Sunday, which was higher than Carlos Hyde had all year and played a bunch of the same snaps as Duke, with Duke lined up wide and Chubb in the backfield despite negative gamescript. If he could maintain that type of snap share and continue getting 2-4 targets per game (while improving his catching/route running and all goal line work) I could see him being an elite RB1, maybe not Gurley/Bell level, but peak Fournette level seems plausible.

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Re: Goff + Chubb vs Mahomes?

Postby senska11 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:32 am

Goff and Chub, even in SF. In 1-qb it's not even close.


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