Parker vs Crowder

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Parker vs Crowder

Postby Jcedwards » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:10 pm

I have a guy interested in trading for 1 of them and I'm not sure which one to keep or whether to just keep both. Guy is wanting to trade a 2019 2nd straight up for one of them. I have the depth to get rid of 1 of them, but should I trade either one for a 2nd straight up or keep them both for the depth?

I currently only have 1 pick in 2019 (1st round), so this would help me gain another pick. This pick will probably end up early-mid 2nd. The guy who originally had the pick is rebuilding, so he should finish toward the bottom.
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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby Ice » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:03 pm

I would not trade either for a future 2nd round pick. That is a horrible offer. I could see trading one for a 2nd if I was on the clock and knew I would get a targeted player but that is laughable right now.
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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby bawilks » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:27 pm

Probably not either of them. You can definitely get more.
12 Team PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2Flex, TE, K, DEF
QB: Wilson, Prescott
RB: Jacobs, Montgomery, Robinson, Walker III, Moss, Evans
WR: Hopkins, Thielen, McLaurin, V. Jefferson, MVS, Samuel, Lazard
TE: Ertz, Knox, Hurst


10 Team PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2FLEX, TE, K, DEF
QB: Cousins, Wentz, Lawrence, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Sanders, Robinson, Pollard, Mack, R. White
WR: M. Thomas, Jefferson, McLaurin, Woods, C. Ridley, Sutton
TE: Ertz, Gronk, Freiermuth, Tonyan


10 Team PPR, 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, DEF
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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby Jcedwards » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:40 pm

bawilks wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:27 pm Probably not either of them. You can definitely get more.
Well now he proposed this:

MY Parker and 2020 2nd for
HIS Godwin and 2019 2nd (probably early)
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

2019 and 2020 Champion

QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker

Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo

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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby bawilks » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:05 pm

Nooooooooooo way. I wouldn’t even do parker for Godwin and a 2nd
12 Team PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2Flex, TE, K, DEF
QB: Wilson, Prescott
RB: Jacobs, Montgomery, Robinson, Walker III, Moss, Evans
WR: Hopkins, Thielen, McLaurin, V. Jefferson, MVS, Samuel, Lazard
TE: Ertz, Knox, Hurst


10 Team PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2FLEX, TE, K, DEF
QB: Cousins, Wentz, Lawrence, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Sanders, Robinson, Pollard, Mack, R. White
WR: M. Thomas, Jefferson, McLaurin, Woods, C. Ridley, Sutton
TE: Ertz, Gronk, Freiermuth, Tonyan


10 Team PPR, 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, DEF
QB: Allen, Wentz, Newton, Lance
RB: Cook, Kamara, Hunt, Robinson, Mitchell
WR: OBJ, Kupp, Boyd, McLaurin, Pittman, Boyd, Hardman
TE: Andrews, Ebron

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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby Jcedwards » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:18 pm

bawilks wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:05 pm Nooooooooooo way. I wouldn’t even do parker for Godwin and a 2nd
I might do Godwin and a 2nd for Parker, but I'm going to try and talk him down or I won't do a deal at all.
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

2019 and 2020 Champion

QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker

Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo

Picks- 2023: 1.02, 1.11, 2.10, 2.11, 3.11, 4.10, 4.11

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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:40 pm

I don't see anything wrong with the trade... Goodwin put up about 150 pts last year and Parker put up 118. I think I would counter the following just to see if you could swing it in your favor a tad more:

Parker
3rd next yr

Goodwin
2nd next yr
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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby Jcedwards » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:01 pm

kumetis93 wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:40 pm I don't see anything wrong with the trade... Goodwin put up about 150 pts last year and Parker put up 118. I think I would counter the following just to see if you could swing it in your favor a tad more:

Parker
3rd next yr

Goodwin
2nd next yr
It’s for Chris Godwin, not Goodwin. I did talk him down to Godwin and 2019 2nd (probably early) for Parker and 2020 3rd (probably late if my team stays competitive)
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

2019 and 2020 Champion

QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker

Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo

Picks- 2023: 1.02, 1.11, 2.10, 2.11, 3.11, 4.10, 4.11

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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby bawilks » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:53 pm

I don’t think you should be adding anything on top of Parker. I don’t think you should even be moving Parker... not for Godwin at least. Seems Parker has a lot more upside than Godwin as long as he stays healthy. Landry is gone now and Tannehill is back. I see Parker being more productive in the long run. If you want Godwin for some reason try to put Crowder back on his place.

Crowder for Godwin and his 2nd
12 Team PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2Flex, TE, K, DEF
QB: Wilson, Prescott
RB: Jacobs, Montgomery, Robinson, Walker III, Moss, Evans
WR: Hopkins, Thielen, McLaurin, V. Jefferson, MVS, Samuel, Lazard
TE: Ertz, Knox, Hurst


10 Team PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2FLEX, TE, K, DEF
QB: Cousins, Wentz, Lawrence, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Sanders, Robinson, Pollard, Mack, R. White
WR: M. Thomas, Jefferson, McLaurin, Woods, C. Ridley, Sutton
TE: Ertz, Gronk, Freiermuth, Tonyan


10 Team PPR, 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, DEF
QB: Allen, Wentz, Newton, Lance
RB: Cook, Kamara, Hunt, Robinson, Mitchell
WR: OBJ, Kupp, Boyd, McLaurin, Pittman, Boyd, Hardman
TE: Andrews, Ebron

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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby Ice » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:45 pm

Jcedwards wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:01 pm
kumetis93 wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:40 pm I don't see anything wrong with the trade... Goodwin put up about 150 pts last year and Parker put up 118. I think I would counter the following just to see if you could swing it in your favor a tad more:

Parker
3rd next yr

Goodwin
2nd next yr
It’s for Chris Godwin, not Goodwin. I did talk him down to Godwin and 2019 2nd (probably early) for Parker and 2020 3rd (probably late if my team stays competitive)
This doesn't help you. Parker, as much as some hate has WR1 upside. Godwin has some longer term potential as a WR2 on his own team.

You are not talking him down, despite you thinking you are.
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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby Jcedwards » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:01 pm

Ice wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:45 pm
Jcedwards wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:01 pm
kumetis93 wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:40 pm I don't see anything wrong with the trade... Goodwin put up about 150 pts last year and Parker put up 118. I think I would counter the following just to see if you could swing it in your favor a tad more:

Parker
3rd next yr

Goodwin
2nd next yr
It’s for Chris Godwin, not Goodwin. I did talk him down to Godwin and 2019 2nd (probably early) for Parker and 2020 3rd (probably late if my team stays competitive)
This doesn't help you. Parker, as much as some hate has WR1 upside. Godwin has some longer term potential as a WR2 on his own team.

You are not talking him down, despite you thinking you are.
I appreciate the input, but I beg to differ on the talking him down part. He originally asked for Parker and a 2020 2nd for Godwin and 2019 2nd. Then he moved it back to Parker and 2020 3rd. And now the offer is just Parker for Godwin and 2019 2nd.
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

2019 and 2020 Champion

QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker

Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo

Picks- 2023: 1.02, 1.11, 2.10, 2.11, 3.11, 4.10, 4.11

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Re: Parker vs Crowder

Postby Ice » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:05 am

Jcedwards wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:01 pm
Ice wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:45 pm
Jcedwards wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:01 pm

It’s for Chris Godwin, not Goodwin. I did talk him down to Godwin and 2019 2nd (probably early) for Parker and 2020 3rd (probably late if my team stays competitive)
This doesn't help you. Parker, as much as some hate has WR1 upside. Godwin has some longer term potential as a WR2 on his own team.

You are not talking him down, despite you thinking you are.
I appreciate the input, but I beg to differ on the talking him down part. He originally asked for Parker and a 2020 2nd for Godwin and 2019 2nd. Then he moved it back to Parker and 2020 3rd. And now the offer is just Parker for Godwin and 2019 2nd.
Good luck,

From my perspective you are getting killed in the deal but if you like it go for it.
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