Hunt vs Fournette

[rhodyrams]

Have both these guys on my roster, just wondering who others value higher longterm.

[The Red Rooster]

Complete push for me. I assume you will see most people say "LF's injury concern scares me" which, is fine (even though I do not subscribe to that thought). This will be completely based on personal preference and you really cant go wrong with either imo.

[rhodyrams]

Complete push for me. I assume you will see most people say "LF's injury concern scares me" which, is fine (even though I do not subscribe to that thought). This will be completely based on personal preference and you really cant go wrong with either imo.

Yeah thats what I have been reading that with LF chronic ankle issues he could miss 2-3 games a year.

[Titans95]

Don't really see how this is even a debate. Hunt produced more than Fournette, was more efficient than Fournette, is on the better offense as a whole than Fournette, and has no injury concerns like Fournette. People care about draft stock wayyy too long into valuations.

[The Red Rooster]

Don't really see how this is even a debate. Hunt produced more than Fournette, was more efficient than Fournette, is on the better offense as a whole than Fournette, and has no injury concerns like Fournette. People care about draft stock wayyy too long into valuations.

This will have nothing to do with draft stock. LF did not have a bad year...I believe he was the #8ish fantasy RB (depending on league settings) and Hunt was around the #4ish. So yes, Hunt outproduced him but also played all 16 games where I think LF missed 2 or 3 games. I do probably lean Hunt, but, you wont find people adding significant pieces to the LF side to obtain Hunt...which is why I feel this is fairly even. I also really like that JAX added Norwell and are still trying to upgrade their oline.

[Titans95]

Don't really see how this is even a debate. Hunt produced more than Fournette, was more efficient than Fournette, is on the better offense as a whole than Fournette, and has no injury concerns like Fournette. People care about draft stock wayyy too long into valuations.

This will have nothing to do with draft stock. LF did not have a bad year...I believe he was the #8ish fantasy RB (depending on league settings) and Hunt was around the #4ish. So yes, Hunt outproduced him but also played all 16 games where I think LF missed 2 or 3 games. I do probably lean Hunt, but, you wont find people adding significant pieces to the LF side to obtain Hunt...which is why I feel this is fairly even. I also really like that JAX added Norwell and are still trying to upgrade their oline.

I agree I don't see the LF owner would give much more added to get Hunt but if I was a Hunt owner I would want more for a LF trade. I think their PPG was only 1 point difference but Fournette really wasn't very efficient and he does have injury concerns. I can't imagine many startups that have Fournette going ahead of Hunt.

[usgojoox]

Don't really see how this is even a debate. Hunt produced more than Fournette, was more efficient than Fournette, is on the better offense as a whole than Fournette, and has no injury concerns like Fournette. People care about draft stock wayyy too long into valuations.

I only agree with your first sentence. Hunt came into the year and lit the world on fire and then died down. Ware was a more than suitable player that's coming back to take touches. Ried's offenses have a history of starting hot and then cooling down so I don't think anyone should be expecting Hunt to produce the way he did the first 6 weeks or so over the course of a season. They're bringing in a rookie QB with terrible footwork so teams can stack the box more. Fournette *was* the gameplan last year and dominated regardless. Give me Fournette all day.

[Vcize]

Don't really see how this is even a debate. Hunt produced more than Fournette, was more efficient than Fournette, is on the better offense as a whole than Fournette, and has no injury concerns like Fournette. People care about draft stock wayyy too long into valuations.

I only agree with your first sentence. Hunt came into the year and lit the world on fire and then died down. Ware was a more than suitable player that's coming back to take touches. Ried's offenses have a history of starting hot and then cooling down so I don't think anyone should be expecting Hunt to produce the way he did the first 6 weeks or so over the course of a season. They're bringing in a rookie QB with terrible footwork so teams can stack the box more. Fournette *was* the gameplan last year and dominated regardless. Give me Fournette all day.

25-116, 3-22, 1 TD
24-155, 7-51, 2 TD
29-91, 4-15, 1 TD

That was Hunt's final three games so while he "died down" a bit in the middle of the year when KC got away from him, he bounced right back when they gave him steady work again.

Also as a Fournette owner myself I wouldn't really say he "dominated" last year. He was above 4ypc in only three games the entire year, which is quite bad. I watched all the Jags games last year and outside of two really long runs it was mostly him just running into a brick wall for 2 yards and a cloud of dust all year. I know I know when it comes to taking runs out, but without those two long runs he averaged a paultry 3.2ypc.

I was huge on Fournette coming into the league and traded up to draft him in all but one of my leagues, and I still like him a lot, but "dominated" is certainly not a word I would use to describe his rookie year.

[Titans95]

Don't really see how this is even a debate. Hunt produced more than Fournette, was more efficient than Fournette, is on the better offense as a whole than Fournette, and has no injury concerns like Fournette. People care about draft stock wayyy too long into valuations.

I only agree with your first sentence. Hunt came into the year and lit the world on fire and then died down. Ware was a more than suitable player that's coming back to take touches. Ried's offenses have a history of starting hot and then cooling down so I don't think anyone should be expecting Hunt to produce the way he did the first 6 weeks or so over the course of a season. They're bringing in a rookie QB with terrible footwork so teams can stack the box more. Fournette *was* the gameplan last year and dominated regardless. Give me Fournette all day.

25-116, 3-22, 1 TD
24-155, 7-51, 2 TD
29-91, 4-15, 1 TD

That was Hunt's final three games so while he "died down" a bit in the middle of the year when KC got away from him, he bounced right back when they gave him steady work again.

Also as a Fournette owner myself I wouldn't really say he "dominated" last year. He was above 4ypc in only three games the entire year, which is quite bad. I watched all the Jags games last year and outside of two really long runs it was mostly him just running into a brick wall for 2 yards and a cloud of dust all year. I know I know when it comes to taking runs out, but without those two long runs he averaged a paultry 3.2ypc.

I was huge on Fournette coming into the league and traded up to draft him in all but one of my leagues, and I still like him a lot, but "dominated" is certainly not a word I would use to describe his rookie year.

Explained my thoughts exactly. Reid moved away from hunt and they lost 5 games in a row, they give him 20 or more carries and the immediately start winning again. Hunt started and finished strong, yes he had a weak middle but I don't think he showed any sign of not being capable of producing similar or even better results this year.

[Chuck_The_Deuce]

Im not really a huge Fournette fan but I would take Fournette here. I just think that offense is going to rely on him a lot more than KC will with Hunt. Ankle issue does worry me a little, but I think he has just as much of a chance at staying healthy as Hunt has.

[Titans95]

Im not really a huge Fournette fan but I would take Fournette here. I just think that offense is going to rely on him a lot more than KC will with Hunt. Ankle issue does worry me a little, but I think he has just as much of a chance at staying healthy as Hunt has.

How does a specific chronic injury from fournette worry you but no specific injury history from hunt make them have equal chances of playing 16 games?

[Goddard]

I prefer Hunt because I think he's a more complete back and I'm not sold Fournette will ever have a completely healthy season.

[JJRules]

It's a complete toss-up for me.

Fournette's chronic ankle problems worry me about as much as Hunt playing for Andy "How do I use a RB?" Reid does. Both are legit RBs with legit concerns.

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Hunt came into the year and lit the world on fire and then died down. Ware was a more than suitable player that's coming back to take touches. Ried's offenses have a history of starting hot and then cooling down so I don't think anyone should be expecting Hunt to produce the way he did the first 6 weeks or so over the course of a season.

This false narrative has been addressed many times this off season regarding Hunt and yet this same idea continues to rear its ugly head.

Over a period of several weeks, Reid opted to reduce Hunt's touches considerably - most notably in the first half - for no reason at all. It had nothing to do with Hunt and then we saw the results of such stupidity as KC lost 6 out of 7 games. Then at the end of the season he started giving him his touches back and amazingly the Chiefs started winning again. Not only do I expect Hunt to play as well as he did last season, I'm expecting improved numbers at season's end.

As to Spencer Ware, he's not a threat any more than any other backup RB.

[Titans95]

Hunt came into the year and lit the world on fire and then died down. Ware was a more than suitable player that's coming back to take touches. Ried's offenses have a history of starting hot and then cooling down so I don't think anyone should be expecting Hunt to produce the way he did the first 6 weeks or so over the course of a season.

This false narrative has been addressed many times this off season regarding Hunt and yet this same idea continues to rear its ugly head.

Over a period of several weeks, Reid opted to reduce Hunt's touches considerably - most notably in the first half - for no reason at all. It had nothing to do with Hunt and then we saw the results of such stupidity as KC lost 6 out of 7 games. Then at the end of the season he started giving him his touches back and amazingly the Chiefs started winning again. Not only do I expect Hunt to play as well as he did last season, I'm expecting improved numbers at season's end.

As to Spencer Ware, he's not a threat any more than any other backup RB.

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Why take away touches from your back that just handled 272 carries like a champ and led the league in rush yards and give them to a guy who just one season removed couldnt crack 1,000 yards and the team felt the need to trade up and get a RB....people find the craziest reasons for regression