Ertz vs. Hilton

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Ertz
8
26%
Ertz by a lot
3
10%
Hilton
5
16%
Hilton by a lot
5
16%
fair
10
32%
 
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Ertz vs. Hilton

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:03 am

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Re: Ertz vs. Hilton

Postby Space Cowboy » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:35 am

Hilton by a lot, even if it was TE premium.
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Re: Ertz vs. Hilton

Postby Titans95 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:51 pm

I think its fair in a TE premium.
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Re: Ertz vs. Hilton

Postby senska11 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:49 pm

Space Cowboy wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:35 am
Hilton by a lot, even if it was TE premium.
This. Not even close.

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Re: Ertz vs. Hilton

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:47 pm

Titans95 wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:51 pm
I think its fair in a TE premium.
Correct. I love Hilton but not sure why anyone would say it's "Hilton and not close EVEN IN a TE-premium"
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Re: Ertz vs. Hilton

Postby senska11 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:58 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:47 pm
Titans95 wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:51 pm
I think its fair in a TE premium.
Correct. I love Hilton but not sure why anyone would say it's "Hilton and not close EVEN IN a TE-premium"
People over-estimate the value of TE's in the typical TE-premium league like none other.
Unless it's like 4 ppr for a TE, it makes very little difference. TE is still a one-off position and shouldn't be valued very highly. If it's a start two TE, than it's a different story and that should be stated.

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Re: Ertz vs. Hilton

Postby The Red Rooster » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:31 am

I think currently, its fair but I probably lean Hilton...however, I think by mid season this will be Hilton easily. I am of the opinion Luck plays and Hilton bounces back in a big way.

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Re: Ertz vs. Hilton

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:52 am

senska11 wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:58 am
lukkynumber13 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:47 pm
Titans95 wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:51 pm
I think its fair in a TE premium.
Correct. I love Hilton but not sure why anyone would say it's "Hilton and not close EVEN IN a TE-premium"
People over-estimate the value of TE's in the typical TE-premium league like none other.
Unless it's like 4 ppr for a TE, it makes very little difference. TE is still a one-off position and shouldn't be valued very highly. If it's a start two TE, than it's a different story and that should be stated.
Ertz put up 18 ppg in 1.5 TE Premium, which is more than Hilton's career high. Ertz is a year younger and TEs don't have the same steep aging curve as WRs.

I think it's reasonable to prefer Ertz depending on the format and team need, although in a TE premium startup I'd probably take Hilton ahead of Ertz.
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