How would you rank these guys? There appears to be a value chasm after the top 4 of Gronk, Kelce, Ertz and Engram. Here is the next big group of TEs, sorted by alphabetical order. How would you rank these cats?
Burton
Doyle
Eifert
Ebron
Graham
Henry
Hooper
Howard
Kittle
Njoku
Olsen
Reed
Rudolph
Seferian-Jenkins
Shaheen
Walker
Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
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Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
There's a 2nd tier of guys in Howard, Henry, and Njoku.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:24 am How would you rank these guys? There appears to be a value chasm after the top 4 of Gronk, Kelce, Ertz and Engram. Here is the next big group of TEs, sorted by alphabetical order. How would you rank these cats?
Burton
Doyle
Eifert
Ebron
Graham
Henry
Hooper
Howard
Kittle
Njoku
Olsen
Reed
Rudolph
Seferian-Jenkins
Shaheen
Walker
After that, I like Rudolph, Little, Burton, and Ebron (situation looking bad?)
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
It's really hard to "rank" a lot of these guys, for instance Walker and Olsen who could be top-5 TEs this year but if you're rebuilding, you'd probably sell for a 3rd!
I'll give it a go:
Henry
Doyle
Njoku
Rudolph
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Burton
Kittle
Olsen
OJ H
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ASJ
D. Walker
Eifert
Reed
Graham
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Shaheen
Gerald Everett
Ebron
Vance McDonald
Hooper
I'll give it a go:
Henry
Doyle
Njoku
Rudolph
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Burton
Kittle
Olsen
OJ H
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ASJ
D. Walker
Eifert
Reed
Graham
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Shaheen
Gerald Everett
Ebron
Vance McDonald
Hooper
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
Rudolph
Henry
Goedert (Not on your list but he should be)
Eifert
Reed
Kittle
Njoku
Walker
Graham
OJ Howrad
Hooper
Ebron
Olsen
ASJ
Vance
Burton
Doyle
Shaheen
Everett
Henry
Goedert (Not on your list but he should be)
Eifert
Reed
Kittle
Njoku
Walker
Graham
OJ Howrad
Hooper
Ebron
Olsen
ASJ
Vance
Burton
Doyle
Shaheen
Everett
Team 1 (18/19 Champ)
QB- Rivers, Jimmy G, Flacco
RB- LF, Kamara, Henry, Ito, Barber, RoJo, Harris, Brieda,
WR- Hopkins, Evans, Golladay, Foster, McLaurin, Perriman
TE- Kelce, Eifert, Knox, Gronk
Taxi-R Ridley, Love
Team 2 (16/18/19 Champ)
QB- Watson, Goff
RB- Zeke, CMC, Gordon, Chubb, R Freeman, Hunt
WR- MT, M Williams, Kupp, Campbell, Chark, Ross
TE- Henry, Hooper, Andrews
Team 3 (17/18 Champ)
QB- Stafford, Murray
RB- Cook, Gurley, Lindsay, Mixon, Drake
WR- OBJ, Hopkins, TY, Kupp, K Johnson, Parker, Renfrow, Ross
TE- Kittle, I Thomas
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QB- Wentz, Kelly, Lamar, Brissett, Luck, RG3
RB- Chubb, Cook, KJ, Sony, Montgomery, Gallaman, Sproles
WR- Fuller, Watkins, Sutton, Hollywood, Pettis, Moore, Lee, Funchess, Crowder
TE- Kittle, Henry, Shaheen, LaCosse
Taxi- Gaskins, Love, Harmon, Hurd, Sample
QB- Rivers, Jimmy G, Flacco
RB- LF, Kamara, Henry, Ito, Barber, RoJo, Harris, Brieda,
WR- Hopkins, Evans, Golladay, Foster, McLaurin, Perriman
TE- Kelce, Eifert, Knox, Gronk
Taxi-R Ridley, Love
Team 2 (16/18/19 Champ)
QB- Watson, Goff
RB- Zeke, CMC, Gordon, Chubb, R Freeman, Hunt
WR- MT, M Williams, Kupp, Campbell, Chark, Ross
TE- Henry, Hooper, Andrews
Team 3 (17/18 Champ)
QB- Stafford, Murray
RB- Cook, Gurley, Lindsay, Mixon, Drake
WR- OBJ, Hopkins, TY, Kupp, K Johnson, Parker, Renfrow, Ross
TE- Kittle, I Thomas
Team 4 SF
QB- Wentz, Kelly, Lamar, Brissett, Luck, RG3
RB- Chubb, Cook, KJ, Sony, Montgomery, Gallaman, Sproles
WR- Fuller, Watkins, Sutton, Hollywood, Pettis, Moore, Lee, Funchess, Crowder
TE- Kittle, Henry, Shaheen, LaCosse
Taxi- Gaskins, Love, Harmon, Hurd, Sample
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
Ebron to Indy hurts Doyle a bit.
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QB: Garoppolo, Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Mixon, Henry, Booker, Miller, Mack, McNichols, Ballage
WR: Davis, Treadwell, Jmatt, Beasley, DJ Moore, J Washington, Tre’ Smith, Prich, Taywan Taylor, Chad Williams, Benjamin, Krishawn Hogan
TE: Njoku, McDonald
18 picks: 1.13, 2.07, 2.13, 3.02
QB: Garoppolo, Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Mixon, Henry, Booker, Miller, Mack, McNichols, Ballage
WR: Davis, Treadwell, Jmatt, Beasley, DJ Moore, J Washington, Tre’ Smith, Prich, Taywan Taylor, Chad Williams, Benjamin, Krishawn Hogan
TE: Njoku, McDonald
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
I think it hurts Doyle a lot. 2 years for $15 mil leads me to believe Ebron is the top TE there. I know moving to Indy can't magically make Ebron's hands better, but Doyle had 21 more targets than Ebron last year so I'm hoping Ebron's production goes up.
12 Team 20 Roster Spots & 5 IR 1/2 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex
Team 1
Mahomes, Stafford
A. Jones, Guice, RoJo, Hyde, Edwards, Gio, C. Thompson, Dixon, CJA, J. Jackson
MT, Diggs, Cooks, G. Tate, MVS, Smokey Brown, Goodwin
Ertz, Burton, Herndon
2020
1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x
12 Team 20 Roster Spots & 5 IR 1/2 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex
Team 2
Luck, Dalton
Kamara, Michel, D. Henry, T. Coleman, Brieda, Foreman, Dixon
OBJ, MT, JuJu, A-Rob, Kirk, D. Hamilton, Crowder, T Smith (NO)
Howard, Ebron, Rudolph
2019
1.8, 2.8, 4.8
2020
1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x
Team 1
Mahomes, Stafford
A. Jones, Guice, RoJo, Hyde, Edwards, Gio, C. Thompson, Dixon, CJA, J. Jackson
MT, Diggs, Cooks, G. Tate, MVS, Smokey Brown, Goodwin
Ertz, Burton, Herndon
2020
1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x
12 Team 20 Roster Spots & 5 IR 1/2 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex
Team 2
Luck, Dalton
Kamara, Michel, D. Henry, T. Coleman, Brieda, Foreman, Dixon
OBJ, MT, JuJu, A-Rob, Kirk, D. Hamilton, Crowder, T Smith (NO)
Howard, Ebron, Rudolph
2019
1.8, 2.8, 4.8
2020
1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
Not at all. Ebron will struggle for more than 40 catches this year, I promise you. Doyle absolutely loses some ceiling here, but I still believe he's safe for low-end TE1 production.
Let's not forget, last year was the first season in years that Indy didn't throw to a PAIR of TEs, it's what they've always done (with Luck anyway). So this signing says much more about Swoope than it does Doyle.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
They're definitely going to be running two TE sets like crazy with that WR depth. Ebron should easily hit 40 catches, and his situation improved greatly. His hands thing is overblown, yes he has some drops, but his catch rate isn't all that bad. He is still young as hell and in that new offensive scheme with a QB that loves his TE's, I think Ebron could surprise and become a low end TE1. I think Doyle is overrated personally, he was the product of a great situation and little competition.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:36 pmNot at all. Ebron will struggle for more than 40 catches this year, I promise you. Doyle absolutely loses some ceiling here, but I still believe he's safe for low-end TE1 production.
Let's not forget, last year was the first season in years that Indy didn't throw to a PAIR of TEs, it's what they've always done (with Luck anyway). So this signing says much more about Swoope than it does Doyle.
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WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
Henry
OJH
Njoku
Kittle
Doyle
Graham
Rudolph
Ebron
Olsen
Reed
Burton
Walker
Shaheen
ASJ
Hooper
Eifert
OJH
Njoku
Kittle
Doyle
Graham
Rudolph
Ebron
Olsen
Reed
Burton
Walker
Shaheen
ASJ
Hooper
Eifert
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
Sure, but I deliberately didn't include rookies. I'm sure there are a fair number of people who prefer either Andrews or Gesicki to Goedert as well.
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Re: Let’s discuss the mid-tier TEs
I'm with Lucky.gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:06 amThey're definitely going to be running two TE sets like crazy with that WR depth. Ebron should easily hit 40 catches, and his situation improved greatly. His hands thing is overblown, yes he has some drops, but his catch rate isn't all that bad. He is still young as hell and in that new offensive scheme with a QB that loves his TE's, I think Ebron could surprise and become a low end TE1. I think Doyle is overrated personally, he was the product of a great situation and little competition.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:36 pmNot at all. Ebron will struggle for more than 40 catches this year, I promise you. Doyle absolutely loses some ceiling here, but I still believe he's safe for low-end TE1 production.
Let's not forget, last year was the first season in years that Indy didn't throw to a PAIR of TEs, it's what they've always done (with Luck anyway). So this signing says much more about Swoope than it does Doyle.
Doyle signed a similar contract last year to Ebron's. He's not taking a backseat. He will continue to work the middle of the field and redzone, most likely in the Ertz role while Ebron fills the Burton role in Reich's offense.
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