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Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby bsp27 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:53 pm

Where would you guys rank Mckinnon among the following players: Stephen Carr, Salvon Ahmed, D'Andre Swift, Trey Sermon, Bryce Love?
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:42 pm

bsp27 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:53 pm Where would you guys rank Mckinnon among the following players: Stephen Carr, Salvon Ahmed, D'Andre Swift, Trey Sermon, Bryce Love?
Personally I'd take the super athletic, fairly young guy in the NFL with the big contract in Kyle Shanahan's offense. Are you competing? It looks like McKinnon and his new situation make you more competitive now. I mean, so much can happen in college, and any of these prospects can get hurt, damaging their value. Unless it's a Gurley type talent, I prefer the production value and the situation McKinnon is in.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby bsp27 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:04 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:42 pm
bsp27 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:53 pm Where would you guys rank Mckinnon among the following players: Stephen Carr, Salvon Ahmed, D'Andre Swift, Trey Sermon, Bryce Love?
Personally I'd take the super athletic, fairly young guy in the NFL with the big contract in Kyle Shanahan's offense. Are you competing? It looks like McKinnon and his new situation make you more competitive now. I mean, so much can happen in college, and any of these prospects can get hurt, damaging their value. Unless it's a Gurley type talent, I prefer the production value and the situation McKinnon is in.
I offered Mckinnon for Aaron Jones + D'Andre Swift. It's also a half ppr for rb's only so that knocks Mckinnon in my format a bit.
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Te: TJ Hockensen, Gesicki, Hurst

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Rb: Marlon Mack, Tevin Coleman, Rex Burkhead,, Mcguire, Edwards
Wr: Antonio Brown, Amari Cooper, Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, Tre'quan Smith, John Brown, Carlos Henderson, Josh Malone, Ryan Switzer, Taywan Taylor, Leonte Carroo, Antonio Callaway
Te: David Njoku, O.J. Howard, Mark Andrews,

devy: Deondre Francois, Cam Akers, Bryce Love, Myles Gaskin, Sewo Olonilua, Jalen Reagor, Peoples-Jones, Noah Fant

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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby JJRules » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:07 am

bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:04 am It's also a half ppr for rb's only so that knocks Mckinnon in my format a bit.
How does any form of PPR knock McKinnon down? He's always been a superb pass-catcher, so if anything it should make him more valuable.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby bsp27 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:18 pm

JJRules wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:07 am
bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:04 am It's also a half ppr for rb's only so that knocks Mckinnon in my format a bit.
How does any form of PPR knock McKinnon down? He's always been a superb pass-catcher, so if anything it should make him more valuable.
because wr's get full ppr but rb's only get half ppr and a lot of Mckinnon's value comes from catches?
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Rb: Derrick Henry, Latavius Murray, Darrell Henderson, Dexter Williams, Brian Hill
Wr: Chris Godwin, Stefon Diggs, Courtland Sutton, DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Tre'Quan Smith, Daesean Hamilton, Josh Reynolds, Trey Quin, Snead,
Te: TJ Hockensen, Gesicki, Hurst

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Rb: Marlon Mack, Tevin Coleman, Rex Burkhead,, Mcguire, Edwards
Wr: Antonio Brown, Amari Cooper, Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, Tre'quan Smith, John Brown, Carlos Henderson, Josh Malone, Ryan Switzer, Taywan Taylor, Leonte Carroo, Antonio Callaway
Te: David Njoku, O.J. Howard, Mark Andrews,

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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby AussieMate » Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:57 pm

There is a high chance McKinnon will end up being another Christine Michael, I'm not sold on him but I also don't know alot about those RBS except Love who I don't rate. If McKinnon was in this draft I'd take him around late 1st early second as a flyer if that helps

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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:14 pm

AussieMate wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:57 pm There is a high chance McKinnon will end up being another Christine Michael, I'm not sold on him but I also don't know alot about those RBS except Love who I don't rate. If McKinnon was in this draft I'd take him around late 1st early second as a flyer if that helps
Christine Michael? You realize Michael never produced in college, right? McKinnon was super productive in college. Michael also could not catch the ball at all. Not the same type of player at all. Michael was also not given a lucrative contract and basically guaranteed touches due to that.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby JJRules » Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:41 am

bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:18 pm
JJRules wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:07 am
bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:04 am It's also a half ppr for rb's only so that knocks Mckinnon in my format a bit.
How does any form of PPR knock McKinnon down? He's always been a superb pass-catcher, so if anything it should make him more valuable.
because wr's get full ppr but rb's only get half ppr and a lot of Mckinnon's value comes from catches?
But you're asking how he compares to a bunch of devy RBs, so WR scoring is irrelevant. McKinnon's value and pass catching should only be compared to other RBs since they all receive the same .5 PPR.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby Gtdano_14 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:53 pm

JJRules wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:41 am
bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:18 pm
JJRules wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:07 am

How does any form of PPR knock McKinnon down? He's always been a superb pass-catcher, so if anything it should make him more valuable.
because wr's get full ppr but rb's only get half ppr and a lot of Mckinnon's value comes from catches?
But you're asking how he compares to a bunch of devy RBs, so WR scoring is irrelevant. McKinnon's value and pass catching should only be compared to other RBs since they all receive the same .5 PPR.
Right. You have to read between the lines. He is wondering if because McKinnon is a pass catching RB in a .5PPR league, his value isn't given quite as much of a boost versus the 1st and 2nd down RBs who get several more carries per game, but fewer catches. I'm not in a devy league so I can't even pretend to rank them outside of what they do right now, which McKinnon is obviously way above them at this point. I just wanted to get you pointed in the right direction.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:17 pm

Gtdano_14 wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:53 pm
JJRules wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:41 am
bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:18 pm

because wr's get full ppr but rb's only get half ppr and a lot of Mckinnon's value comes from catches?
But you're asking how he compares to a bunch of devy RBs, so WR scoring is irrelevant. McKinnon's value and pass catching should only be compared to other RBs since they all receive the same .5 PPR.
Right. You have to read between the lines. He is wondering if because McKinnon is a pass catching RB in a .5PPR league, his value isn't given quite as much of a boost versus the 1st and 2nd down RBs who get several more carries per game, but fewer catches. I'm not in a devy league so I can't even pretend to rank them outside of what they do right now, which McKinnon is obviously way above them at this point. I just wanted to get you pointed in the right direction.
Not sure why people don't think McKinnon is going to be out there on 1st and 2nd down. He's going to get the ball quite a bit. They aren't making him the 4th highest paid RB in the league to trot out there on 3rd and 7. I agree with your statement, but McKinnon is going to get the ball plenty.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:17 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:17 pm
Gtdano_14 wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:53 pm
JJRules wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:41 am

But you're asking how he compares to a bunch of devy RBs, so WR scoring is irrelevant. McKinnon's value and pass catching should only be compared to other RBs since they all receive the same .5 PPR.
Right. You have to read between the lines. He is wondering if because McKinnon is a pass catching RB in a .5PPR league, his value isn't given quite as much of a boost versus the 1st and 2nd down RBs who get several more carries per game, but fewer catches. I'm not in a devy league so I can't even pretend to rank them outside of what they do right now, which McKinnon is obviously way above them at this point. I just wanted to get you pointed in the right direction.
Not sure why people don't think McKinnon is going to be out there on 1st and 2nd down. He's going to get the ball quite a bit. They aren't making him the 4th highest paid RB in the league to trot out there on 3rd and 7. I agree with your statement, but McKinnon is going to get the ball plenty.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:17 pm

I'd lean toward the known in Devy, unless it's a bluechip prospect like Gurley or McKinnon. So much can change between college and the pros
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:18 pm

Not sure why people don't think McKinnon is going to be out there on 1st and 2nd down. He's going to get the ball quite a bit. They aren't making him the 4th highest paid RB in the league to trot out there on 3rd and 7. I agree with your statement, but McKinnon is going to get the ball plenty.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby Bucky15 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:23 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:18 pm Not sure why people don't think McKinnon is going to be out there on 1st and 2nd down. He's going to get the ball quite a bit. They aren't making him the 4th highest paid RB in the league to trot out there on 3rd and 7. I agree with your statement, but McKinnon is going to get the ball plenty.
Using the salary is a bit unfair. How many good RBs are there in the league who aren't on a rookie deal? Skewed fact IMO
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon vs. devy rb's

Postby Vcize » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:28 am

JJRules wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:07 am
bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:04 am It's also a half ppr for rb's only so that knocks Mckinnon in my format a bit.
How does any form of PPR knock McKinnon down? He's always been a superb pass-catcher, so if anything it should make him more valuable.
I'm assuming he's saying it hurts him relative to full ppr, which has become more common than Non-ppr at this point.
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