Fournette vs Amari

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Fournette vs Amari

Postby Kana » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:20 am

Who would you rather have long term and why?
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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby senska11 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:55 am

Cooper for me.
I tend to be WR over RB, I'm worried about Fournette's repeated foot/ankle issues, and admittedly, I'm just a suck for Cooper.

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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby Mike11 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:44 am

Gotta go Fournette right now, long term, yea Amari is a WR vs a RB but does that really excite you? Cooper is in a great situation and hasn't shown much to me. To be 100% honest show me a fantasy owner who would give up Fournette for Cooper 1 for 1 right now and I'd be very skeptical.
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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby senska11 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:34 pm

Mike11 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:44 am Gotta go Fournette right now, long term, yea Amari is a WR vs a RB but does that really excite you? Cooper is in a great situation and hasn't shown much to me. To be 100% honest show me a fantasy owner who would give up Fournette for Cooper 1 for 1 right now and I'd be very skeptical.
Right now, in a redraft league or as a serious contender in dynasty - there shouldn't be any. A non-contender in a dynasty league, I'm sure there are plenty.

I would agree he's in a great situation, for real life football. For fantasy football I'd argue his situation would be better if a great wide receiver in Crabtree wasn't opposite him and he could be force fed more targets.

The "hasn't shown me anything" narrative is just laughably bad. His first 2 years he had 155 catches, 2200 yards, and 11 TD's. That is similar to Mike Evans, and I have never heard anyone say he "hasn't shown me anything". Somehow the expectations for Cooper are OBJ numbers, and those are historically great numbers.

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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby Tvols » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:32 am

Fournette he actually produces numbers .. cooper meh ...one great game 7 bad ..I take the better player
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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby Weber27 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:24 am

Give me LF over Cooper. I like Cooper's situation and I think he is a good player, but I think LF will be more consistent year in and year out. Though, Cooper may have a longer career, I think those will be less productive years then what you get with LF.
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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby dazza » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:55 am

senska11 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:34 pm
Mike11 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:44 am Gotta go Fournette right now, long term, yea Amari is a WR vs a RB but does that really excite you? Cooper is in a great situation and hasn't shown much to me. To be 100% honest show me a fantasy owner who would give up Fournette for Cooper 1 for 1 right now and I'd be very skeptical.
Right now, in a redraft league or as a serious contender in dynasty - there shouldn't be any. A non-contender in a dynasty league, I'm sure there are plenty.

I would agree he's in a great situation, for real life football. For fantasy football I'd argue his situation would be better if a great wide receiver in Crabtree wasn't opposite him and he could be force fed more targets.

The "hasn't shown me anything" narrative is just laughably bad. His first 2 years he had 155 catches, 2200 yards, and 11 TD's. That is similar to Mike Evans, and I have never heard anyone say he "hasn't shown me anything". Somehow the expectations for Cooper are OBJ numbers, and those are historically great numbers.
This. And in a PPR league, I'd take Cooper fairly easily. Fournette's history of nagging lower leg injuries concern me as much as Cooper's drops this season-while I've noted both, but neither are a significant ding on the player's value yet

I also don't understand why those down on Amari aren't equally pessimistic about Evans. The biggest difference between the two is volume, and Evans has also struggled plenty this season. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Amari pass Evans in production as Crabtree ages and Howard/Godwin develop.

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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby Tvols » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:32 pm

Cooper has been in his funk for much longer like the past year and half where Evans has been in a funk for this year a few more games like this and Evans will start to drop as well..
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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby darewood11 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:49 am

I still think cooper has great potential. I'm worried about the long term.injuries fournette has had and the mpre severe punishment he will take as a powerhouse back so for long term I go cooper. Carr is part of the problem here to all though I realise cooper has way to many drops. The raiders as a whole have been a dumpster firr this year and that hurts as that is my team but i look for a rebound next year. If cooper plays terrible to begin next season it may be time to drop him in the ranks to maybe high upside wr2.

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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby Tvols » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:48 pm

darewood11 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:49 am I still think cooper has great potential. I'm worried about the long term.injuries fournette has had and the mpre severe punishment he will take as a powerhouse back so for long term I go cooper. Carr is part of the problem here to all though I realise cooper has way to many drops. The raiders as a whole have been a dumpster firr this year and that hurts as that is my team but i look for a rebound next year. If cooper plays terrible to begin next season it may be time to drop him in the ranks to maybe high upside wr2.
Lol dude was a dud for the last part of the year last year as the raider were in fire.. h is not startable at this point
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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby dunkat » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:11 pm

As a Cooper owner I'd rather have LF right now. He has the ankle but there's something about a stud running back that intrigues. While I'd like to think Cooper can turn it around next season I just don't know.
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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby Bojangles » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:07 am

I made this trade right after our 2017 draft where I drafted 4Net at 1.02. I gave 4Net and Marvin Jones to aquire Cooper which did not help me this season :crazy: But I'm hoping with Gruden coming to town Cooper will improve. Even with the rough 2017 I don't regret the trade I would do it again.
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Re: Fournette vs Amari

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:57 pm

dunkat wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:11 pm As a Cooper owner I'd rather have LF right now. He has the ankle but there's something about a stud running back that intrigues. While I'd like to think Cooper can turn it around next season I just don't know.
I own Cooper in one league and Fournette in the other, so no bias. I want Fournette over Cooper easily. And I loved Cooper coming out of college. But it’s been a wild ride in the NFL so far. He really has t shown himself to be anything more than an enlarged Brandin Cooks, if that.


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