Kamara vs Dalvin

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Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby cweds » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:55 am

Who holds more value moving forward? Kamara has looked really explosive and since AP left he's been producing quite consistently. Who would you rather have for the 2018 season going forward?
Team 1 (3rd Season):
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,FLEX
24 Man Active Roster
QB: Wilson, Wentz
RB: Freeman, D. Cook, Jamal Williams, Carson, AP, Lindsay, RJ
WR: Adams, T. Hill, Thielen, M. Bryant, Golladay, Trequan Smith, Pettis, MVS, J'mon Moore, C. Williams
TE: Olsen, Gescicki, Ebron, J. Smith
2019: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2 (2nd season):
12 team 4pt Pass TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,3FLEX
25 Man Active Roster/3 IR spots
QB: Mariota, Roethlisberger, Trubisky
RB: DJ, Guice, Penny, Royce Freeman, Conner, Carson, Kelly, Dixon, Morris
WR: Allen, JJSS, Landry, Robinson, Watkins, Godwin, Callaway, Allison, Doctson, J. Moore, MVS
TE: Kelce, Njoku

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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby senska11 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:07 pm

Cook.
Kamara's been great, but give me the workhorse back. Cook was a stud before he got hurt.

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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby Goddard » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:26 pm

I think it's still Cook, but it's much, much closer now.

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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby onetwothree » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:44 pm

Prefer Cook. Appears to be less dependent on surroundings. Feel like Kamara is at peak now and is in perfect situation but that won't last long. Not sure I see him being successful if/when Brees or even Payton leave.

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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby hjernazian » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:57 am

Cook. let's not forget how great he looked and produced very quickly. Kamara is great - but NOS might have finally started liking Ingram - whom I personally love for redraft and got him on my zero RB team in the 9th round.
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QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby cweds » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:55 pm

As an owner of each of these guys I would agree I still prefer Dalvin long term because it seems like he'll be used as a workhorse. Unfortunately Dalvin is on my playoff team and Kamara is on my building team, wish I could swap them this year.

What really intrigues me with Kamara is the possibility of NO cutting Ingram. There's an out in his contract this offseason and with Brees needing an extension (or a FA QB) they may need the cap space. Ingram has played well but maybe they think they can get by With Kamara and Jonathan Williams? Also, it's important to remember that Kamara is actually listed at 5 lbs heavier than Dalvin so maybe he could handle more touches?
Team 1 (3rd Season):
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,FLEX
24 Man Active Roster
QB: Wilson, Wentz
RB: Freeman, D. Cook, Jamal Williams, Carson, AP, Lindsay, RJ
WR: Adams, T. Hill, Thielen, M. Bryant, Golladay, Trequan Smith, Pettis, MVS, J'mon Moore, C. Williams
TE: Olsen, Gescicki, Ebron, J. Smith
2019: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2 (2nd season):
12 team 4pt Pass TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,3FLEX
25 Man Active Roster/3 IR spots
QB: Mariota, Roethlisberger, Trubisky
RB: DJ, Guice, Penny, Royce Freeman, Conner, Carson, Kelly, Dixon, Morris
WR: Allen, JJSS, Landry, Robinson, Watkins, Godwin, Callaway, Allison, Doctson, J. Moore, MVS
TE: Kelce, Njoku

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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby Nathan28 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:09 pm

Give me Kamara. Can't deny whats he's doing in his rookie year and how great he's been playing. Cook looked good too, but played like, what, 3 games?

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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby keebs3 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:35 pm

It's still Cook, I think.

I own Kamara- and saw this thread. I'm in full rebuild and basically tanking. I offered Kamara to the Cook owner, who has a great chance to win it all.

He wouldn't even hear me out.
I don't really blame him... I love Kamara, but would rather have Cook long term.
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WR: Davante Adams | Mike Evans | Julio Jones -Sammy Watkins | John Brown | DeVante Parker | Deebo Samuel | Nelson Agholor | Terry McLaurin
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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:39 pm

Goddard wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:26 pm I think it's still Cook, but it's much, much closer now.
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TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
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SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby cweds » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:14 pm

keebs3 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:35 pm It's still Cook, I think.

I own Kamara- and saw this thread. I'm in full rebuild and basically tanking. I offered Kamara to the Cook owner, who has a great chance to win it all.

He wouldn't even hear me out.
I don't really blame him... I love Kamara, but would rather have Cook long term.
I tried the same trade in the same situation and I was also turned down. Seems like the market still values Cook significantly more.
Team 1 (3rd Season):
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,FLEX
24 Man Active Roster
QB: Wilson, Wentz
RB: Freeman, D. Cook, Jamal Williams, Carson, AP, Lindsay, RJ
WR: Adams, T. Hill, Thielen, M. Bryant, Golladay, Trequan Smith, Pettis, MVS, J'mon Moore, C. Williams
TE: Olsen, Gescicki, Ebron, J. Smith
2019: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2 (2nd season):
12 team 4pt Pass TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,3FLEX
25 Man Active Roster/3 IR spots
QB: Mariota, Roethlisberger, Trubisky
RB: DJ, Guice, Penny, Royce Freeman, Conner, Carson, Kelly, Dixon, Morris
WR: Allen, JJSS, Landry, Robinson, Watkins, Godwin, Callaway, Allison, Doctson, J. Moore, MVS
TE: Kelce, Njoku

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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:48 pm

If we are not including this season, then Cook's value is safer and I would take him. But in a league where Kamara is putting me over the top this year, I am not trading him for Cook.
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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby FantasyFreakGuru » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:08 am

Dalvin long term.
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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby Tvols » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:22 am

i love them both and there isnt a wrong answer here.. Kamara did this while def tried to game plan for him.. he is a rare talent that will be succefully even when brees is gone.. cant teach some of the things he does.. and cook is a stud in his own right i wish I had them both.
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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby Big Al » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:44 am

Their close in a standard format but I'll take Kamara in PPR.

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Re: Kamara vs Dalvin

Postby DawgPound69 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:33 am

I sadly sold Kamara during my devy draft before the season started. But I would take him over Dalvin all day. Dalvin has a pretty solid injury history and I wasn't a fan of him when he was drafted.
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