I recently proposed a trade (counter offer) to an owner of a team that is in clear rebuild mode at this stage. He doesn't have many parts for the future, and is 3-5. I am 4-4 on the bubble, and currently have the team in my sig.
I offered one of my three (latest) 2018 1st rd picks, and a 2019 2nd rd pick, plus Ben Watson for Ertz... Is this an overvalue or undervalue of Ertz? I figure Watson is 36, and on his way out, and see this as a first and second for Ertz. Having Ertz and Engram as my TE's moving forward would be solid.
Zach Ertz value
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Zach Ertz value
12 TEAM SUPERFLEX, TE Premium, 25 man rosters
QB - | Rodgers | Herbert | Mills
RB - CMC | Chubb | Dobbins | Keaontay Ingram
WR - McLaurin | Deebo | Waddle | Gabriel Davis | Elijah Moore | Mooney | C Ridley | Jameson Williams | Pickens | Alec Pierce | Wan'dale Robinson | Justyn Ross | B Edwards
TE - M Andrews | Friermuth
2023 Picks: 1st round(2), 2nd round(2), 3rd round (2)
QB - | Rodgers | Herbert | Mills
RB - CMC | Chubb | Dobbins | Keaontay Ingram
WR - McLaurin | Deebo | Waddle | Gabriel Davis | Elijah Moore | Mooney | C Ridley | Jameson Williams | Pickens | Alec Pierce | Wan'dale Robinson | Justyn Ross | B Edwards
TE - M Andrews | Friermuth
2023 Picks: 1st round(2), 2nd round(2), 3rd round (2)
Re: Zach Ertz value
That's a huge undervalue for Ertz. He's worth an early 1st at this point, if not more.
Re: Zach Ertz value
Eh, I don't think it's a huge undervalue. Watson is worthless, so you can't even count him.
If you're in a TE premium league it's different, but other than that I wouldn't give up more than a mid 1st for him. So a late 1st and future 2nd may be a bit of an undervalue, but not grossly. I'd probably want more, but wouldn't give up more.
If you're in a TE premium league it's different, but other than that I wouldn't give up more than a mid 1st for him. So a late 1st and future 2nd may be a bit of an undervalue, but not grossly. I'd probably want more, but wouldn't give up more.
Re: Zach Ertz value
As an Ertz owner I’d need that first to be mid/early
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
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Re: Zach Ertz value
As an Ertz owner, I wouldn't take your offer, especially the way he is going this year, the long-term investment from Philly, and the good QB situation.
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Re: Zach Ertz value
FWIW, I acquired my first Ertz share this past week. 12 team PPR non-superflex. The deal was:
Send Wentz, Sammy, Foreman
Receive Ertz, DT, Hogan
I saw DT and Sammy as close depending on competing/rebuilding and Foreman/Hogan 2nd round value as is currently.
The thing that sucked about the trade was that it was post Thursday night and my only TE at the time was Julius Thomas, so I had him stuck in my starting lineup.
Send Wentz, Sammy, Foreman
Receive Ertz, DT, Hogan
I saw DT and Sammy as close depending on competing/rebuilding and Foreman/Hogan 2nd round value as is currently.
The thing that sucked about the trade was that it was post Thursday night and my only TE at the time was Julius Thomas, so I had him stuck in my starting lineup.
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Re: Zach Ertz value
I appreciate the input. This is a TE premium league, where catches are 1.5 pts, so I may have undervalued him.
He ended up counter offering, but his counter offer was off in left field. He proposed Garoppolo for two 2018 first rd picks, which I rejected. I ended up countering with a 2018 first, 2019 fourth, as well as Hogan from CLE, but I expect that to get rejected. I'm not very high on Garoppolo personally.
He ended up counter offering, but his counter offer was off in left field. He proposed Garoppolo for two 2018 first rd picks, which I rejected. I ended up countering with a 2018 first, 2019 fourth, as well as Hogan from CLE, but I expect that to get rejected. I'm not very high on Garoppolo personally.
12 TEAM SUPERFLEX, TE Premium, 25 man rosters
QB - | Rodgers | Herbert | Mills
RB - CMC | Chubb | Dobbins | Keaontay Ingram
WR - McLaurin | Deebo | Waddle | Gabriel Davis | Elijah Moore | Mooney | C Ridley | Jameson Williams | Pickens | Alec Pierce | Wan'dale Robinson | Justyn Ross | B Edwards
TE - M Andrews | Friermuth
2023 Picks: 1st round(2), 2nd round(2), 3rd round (2)
QB - | Rodgers | Herbert | Mills
RB - CMC | Chubb | Dobbins | Keaontay Ingram
WR - McLaurin | Deebo | Waddle | Gabriel Davis | Elijah Moore | Mooney | C Ridley | Jameson Williams | Pickens | Alec Pierce | Wan'dale Robinson | Justyn Ross | B Edwards
TE - M Andrews | Friermuth
2023 Picks: 1st round(2), 2nd round(2), 3rd round (2)
Re: Zach Ertz value
I don't see you getting him for anything less than a high 1st - with that said I wouldn't be offering that unless a TE was the last piece I needed to win/contend.
Team 1:
(10-3)
12 Team PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX
QB: A Rodgers, M Mariota
RB: T Gurley, L Fournette, M Ingram, B Powell, T Riddick, CJ Prosise, M Brown, C Ivory
WR: A Thielen, M Crabtree, Marvin Jones, R Anderson, W Fuller, M Bryant, P Garcon, T Pryor, John Brown, K White, D Byrd
TE: J Reed, D Njoku, C Clay, V Davis
Draft Picks:
2018: (2) 3rds, (1) 4th
2019: (1) 1st, (1) 4th
Team 2:
(12-1)
12 Team PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX
QB: K Cousins, P Rivers
RB: M Gordon, M Ingram, J Mixon, CJ Prosise, J Hill, S Vereen, M Davis
WR: K Allen, S Diggs, D Bryant , E Sanders, J Nelson, W Snead, Tyrell Williams, C Godwin, Taywan Taylor, C Williams
TE: J Graham , D Njoku
Draft Picks:
2018: (1) 4th
2019: (1) 1st, (1) 4th
(10-3)
12 Team PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX
QB: A Rodgers, M Mariota
RB: T Gurley, L Fournette, M Ingram, B Powell, T Riddick, CJ Prosise, M Brown, C Ivory
WR: A Thielen, M Crabtree, Marvin Jones, R Anderson, W Fuller, M Bryant, P Garcon, T Pryor, John Brown, K White, D Byrd
TE: J Reed, D Njoku, C Clay, V Davis
Draft Picks:
2018: (2) 3rds, (1) 4th
2019: (1) 1st, (1) 4th
Team 2:
(12-1)
12 Team PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX
QB: K Cousins, P Rivers
RB: M Gordon, M Ingram, J Mixon, CJ Prosise, J Hill, S Vereen, M Davis
WR: K Allen, S Diggs, D Bryant , E Sanders, J Nelson, W Snead, Tyrell Williams, C Godwin, Taywan Taylor, C Williams
TE: J Graham , D Njoku
Draft Picks:
2018: (1) 4th
2019: (1) 1st, (1) 4th
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