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Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby Titans95 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:30 am

What is everyone's opinion on Mixon's value this year and beyond? Will he be able to do anything this year behind that atrocious O-line? Will the bengals hamper his long term value until they miraculously fix the O-line or is Mixon too talented to not be a top 5 RB soon? I've heard a lot of comparison to Leveon Bell but I don't think the bengals will ever use him in the same way the steelers use bell.

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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby Slackalacker » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:44 am

Not top 5 but in that offensive system maybe top 10.
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:52 am

Slackalacker wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:44 am Not top 5 but in that offensive system maybe top 10.
Agreed, with volume he will be ~ Melvin Gordon I suspect
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby Stevens61310 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:17 pm

I have been very clear since DAY 1--I think Mixon is a a bust. I never thought he was worth the pick where he was going. Always thought--and still do think Foreman is the better back--and look where you can get him. Cook, Fournette, McCaffrey, and Foreman will have better real life careers and better fantasy careers--

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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:23 pm

Mixon is a very talented RB. If he gets the opportunity his talent deserves, he will be a low end RB1 at least. You're right, he probably won't get used like Bell, because almost no one gets used like Bell. But if Mixon gets 250 carries, and catches at least 40 balls, he will flirt with 1500 scrimmage yards next year.
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby FFFAN » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:49 pm

He's a top 5 nfl rb talent. The second Cincy gets their line improved you'll see leveon 2.0 with more speed

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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:59 pm

FFFAN wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:49 pm He's a top 5 nfl rb talent. The second Cincy gets their line improved you'll see leveon 2.0 with more speed
He is extremely talented. He needs to get a little better at not always seeking the home run, but the dude has insane talent.
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby MichaelScarn » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:06 am

He should be just fine once they give him the full workload. They have to stop bringing in Hill only to get stuffed, and leave Mixon in to get in a rhythm. Keep Gio for those 3rd downs
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby Space Cowboy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:35 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:23 pm Mixon is a very talented RB. If he gets the opportunity his talent deserves, he will be a low end RB1 at least. You're right, he probably won't get used like Bell, because almost no one gets used like Bell. But if Mixon gets 250 carries, and catches at least 40 balls, he will flirt with 1500 scrimmage yards next year.
I agree but it's way too early to assume they won't use him like bell. He's insanely young and there'll be a new staff across the board next year.

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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby Vcize » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:06 pm

chipadelphia wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:06 am He should be just fine once they give him the full workload. They have to stop bringing in Hill only to get stuffed, and leave Mixon in to get in a rhythm. Keep Gio for those 3rd downs
I like Mixon OK but man people will make any excuse in the book for this guy. They have to stop bringing in Hill just to get stuffed? Hill has the same YPC as Mixon. They have to let Mixon get into a rhythm? His least efficient games were the ones where he had the most carries.
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:04 pm

Vcize wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:06 pm
chipadelphia wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:06 am He should be just fine once they give him the full workload. They have to stop bringing in Hill only to get stuffed, and leave Mixon in to get in a rhythm. Keep Gio for those 3rd downs
I like Mixon OK but man people will make any excuse in the book for this guy. They have to stop bringing in Hill just to get stuffed? Hill has the same YPC as Mixon. They have to let Mixon get into a rhythm? His least efficient games were the ones where he had the most carries.
Watch their games. Hill and Mixon are on different planes of talent. When Mixon takes a handoff he looks like a video game character. YPC doesn't tell the story, the film does.
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby jimmychoi » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:36 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:04 pm
Vcize wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:06 pm
chipadelphia wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:06 am He should be just fine once they give him the full workload. They have to stop bringing in Hill only to get stuffed, and leave Mixon in to get in a rhythm. Keep Gio for those 3rd downs
I like Mixon OK but man people will make any excuse in the book for this guy. They have to stop bringing in Hill just to get stuffed? Hill has the same YPC as Mixon. They have to let Mixon get into a rhythm? His least efficient games were the ones where he had the most carries.
Watch their games. Hill and Mixon are on different planes of talent. When Mixon takes a handoff he looks like a video game character. YPC doesn't tell the story, the film does.
I think I read that their off line is creating .3 yds before contact with Mixon. Not 3 but point three yards. I believe in his talent.

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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby cweds » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:20 pm

Based on their starts to their rookie seasons who would you rather have going forward Mixon or Kamara?

I have Kamara in a league where I'm out of contention and thinking about trying to trade him for Mixon straight across to an owner that's contending. Half PPR league so Kamara carries a little less value than a typical full PPR.
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:47 pm

cweds wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:20 pm Based on their starts to their rookie seasons who would you rather have going forward Mixon or Kamara?

I have Kamara in a league where I'm out of contention and thinking about trying to trade him for Mixon straight across to an owner that's contending. Half PPR league so Kamara carries a little less value than a typical full PPR.
I'd easily rather have Kamara especially since it's half-PPR
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Re: Joe Mixon vs Other rookie RB

Postby Gtdano_14 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:58 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:47 pm
cweds wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:20 pm Based on their starts to their rookie seasons who would you rather have going forward Mixon or Kamara?

I have Kamara in a league where I'm out of contention and thinking about trying to trade him for Mixon straight across to an owner that's contending. Half PPR league so Kamara carries a little less value than a typical full PPR.
I'd easily rather have Kamara especially since it's half-PPR
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