Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby Huh » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:07 pm

When I see Williams, I see Asiata 2.0. Nothing special but isn’t terrible and will eventually be replaced. Jones it is!

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby Titans95 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:15 pm

0LDMAN wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:23 am
Titans95 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:35 am
BucFanJKE wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:10 am

An offensive lineman is pretty good in pass protection too. Just toss a guard back there instead of williams if all they care about is pass protection.

I'm being a little extra obviously. But a good run game takes pressure off the pass rush. So Jones just by being the dynamic runner he is can help keep Rodgers off the dirt.
Not convinced Jones is that much more dynamic than Williams. Had a pretty limited showing and wasn't featured when he came back, he's been gone from the team for 2 weeks and hasn't been running with the 1st team offense much this preseason. Obviously time will tell and we don't have to wait long.
At this point an O-lineman might be more dynamic than Williams. Jones has impressed each opportunity, Williams has done nothing but plod along and people bought into him because of his volume last season. It's becoming clear that he's not the guy, he's Just A Guy.

Is Jones the guy? That remains to be seen, but it's obvious JWill is not.
I'm not a Jamaal Williams owner or even a truther but I think there is a bit of overreaction here. Week 1 was up against a stout front in Chicago and the Packers fell behind early. Week 2 was an obvious match-up nightmare for anyone that isn't absolutely ELITE. I get the Aaron Jones Truthers are banging the table for him now that Jamaal hasn't produced elite numbers in 2 games but he's been the starter all off season. IF Jones takes over that backfield it will be mid/late in the season. They aren't going to completely change the guard right away just because he's back from suspension. As to the pass protection comments I think everyone is taking that too lightly. Its a very good trait to have for a RB and he's one of the better ones at it and by far the best in GB, he's also been better than Jones in the passing game to date.

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby notweswelker » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:33 pm

Titans95 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:15 pm
I'm not a Jamaal Williams owner or even a truther but I think there is a bit of overreaction here. Week 1 was up against a stout front in Chicago and the Packers fell behind early. Week 2 was an obvious match-up nightmare for anyone that isn't absolutely ELITE. I get the Aaron Jones Truthers are banging the table for him now that Jamaal hasn't produced elite numbers in 2 games but he's been the starter all off season. IF Jones takes over that backfield it will be mid/late in the season. They aren't going to completely change the guard right away just because he's back from suspension. As to the pass protection comments I think everyone is taking that too lightly. Its a very good trait to have for a RB and he's one of the better ones at it and by far the best in GB, he's also been better than Jones in the passing game to date.
I've got both of them in a few leagues, but this isn't a new development. You're saying he hasn't produced "elite" numbers in two games, but that's not even accurate. He's been bad. And he was bad last year too. That's why I think Jones is better than him. Is Jones great? Like I said, maybe, but the point is Jamaal is bad.

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby Titans95 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:46 am

0LDMAN wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:33 pm
Titans95 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:15 pm
I'm not a Jamaal Williams owner or even a truther but I think there is a bit of overreaction here. Week 1 was up against a stout front in Chicago and the Packers fell behind early. Week 2 was an obvious match-up nightmare for anyone that isn't absolutely ELITE. I get the Aaron Jones Truthers are banging the table for him now that Jamaal hasn't produced elite numbers in 2 games but he's been the starter all off season. IF Jones takes over that backfield it will be mid/late in the season. They aren't going to completely change the guard right away just because he's back from suspension. As to the pass protection comments I think everyone is taking that too lightly. Its a very good trait to have for a RB and he's one of the better ones at it and by far the best in GB, he's also been better than Jones in the passing game to date.
I've got both of them in a few leagues, but this isn't a new development. You're saying he hasn't produced "elite" numbers in two games, but that's not even accurate. He's been bad. And he was bad last year too. That's why I think Jones is better than him. Is Jones great? Like I said, maybe, but the point is Jamaal is bad.
I think he's done his job. I don't think he's done bad in a real football since. Bad for fantasy yes.

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby Njpell » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:36 pm

Jones is the way better back. Full stop. Ty is just converted who might get a few passes now and then. I see Joned is taking over the lead by week five and not letting go !!

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby diamonddave » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:53 am

Huh wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:07 pm When I see Williams, I see Asiata 2.0. Nothing special but isn’t terrible and will eventually be replaced. Jones it is!
Jones has the highest upside for sure. JWill will have 2-3 good games a year when injury hits one of the other two but guys like him are dime a dozen.
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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby TheRookiePro » Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:13 pm

This is quickly becoming a charade. Jamaal Williams is nothing special. We don't know if Jones is a 3-down back but we do know he deserves the most snaps in that backfield. Every time this kid is in, he's a spark-plug. Rodgers used the media earlier in the week to show where his vote is going towards:

"When you bring 33 back on the field like we did last week, you kind of forget the type of dynamic abilities he can bring to a game with his running style, Rodgers said. "He's a different type of runner than we've had here in a while. You've gotta find ways to get him the ball."

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:47 am

I don't think the box score does Aaron Jones much justice from yesterday. Dude looks great. I dont know why they even bother with the other 2, but I bet they never change that

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby Duke Nuk’em » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:50 pm

PurpleHaze wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:31 pm Aaron Jones looks better to me. He looks like a young Eddie Lacy out there.

Jamaal Williams kinda looks like "just a guy".

Can Aaron Jones overtake Jamaal Williams on the depth chart? If so, when?
When I look at them it looks like Eddie Lacy ate Aaron Jones. Also, they have a much different style than Lacy did.

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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby TheRookiePro » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:01 am

I hate Mike McCarthy because he seems to hate Aaron Jones. Once again Jones showed he's the best back on that team yesterday. And yet, he was out-snapped by Williams and Montgomery.
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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:15 am

As a Packer fan Jones is clearly the better RB but for whatever reason McCarthy's incompetence will hamper his productivity.

I'd be weary of anyone in the GB backfield regardless, as it is a pure committee at this stage and for the foreseeable future. Jones also seems to always get hurt right when he is getting into a groove. Outside of Lacy for two seasons and Ryan Grant for 2.5 seasons, GB's run game w/Rodgers at the helm has been a joke.

McCarthy tends to give up on the run game very early on when the going gets tough (makes sense when you have Rodgers). Just not a suitable fantasy situation imo.
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Re: Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones

Postby TheRookiePro » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:04 pm

Dirty Mike&the Boyz wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:15 am As a Packer fan Jones is clearly the better RB but for whatever reason McCarthy's incompetence will hamper his productivity.
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