I noticed the Zeke owner in my SuperFlex PPR league has Zeke on the trading block and is asking for a QB upgrade in return.
I was thinking of offering this:
Give: Tyrod Taylor + Todd Gurley
Get: Eli Manning + Ezekiel Elliott
Is that enough to pursue the Zeke owner or not enough? Last year Tyrod scored an average of 4 points more per game than Manning. I know Tyrod has looked bad this preseason but he's a lot younger and a mobile QB so I consider it an upgrade for him, plus Gurley *should* see some positive regression this season and isn't suspended.
Thoughts?
Fair Zeke Value?
Re: Fair Zeke Value?
crickets today... If this trade is unfair, how much would you add to make it even?
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Re: Fair Zeke Value?
With players like Zeke and Gurley it is truly up to the individual owners involved. Any particular Zeke owner may be sleeping soundly at night regardless of what the media is reporting about the kid. Others may be nervously freaking out over the "banishment" comment.
Gurley has his following as well as his detractors.
I'd float the trade you have posted. In my mind it isn't enough to get Zeke but should at least get a reply and you can talk from there. Then again, your targeted owner my be someone that had/has a man-crush on Gurley and will be glad to leave the Zeke news cycle behind him.
Give it a shot, what the heck.
Gurley has his following as well as his detractors.
I'd float the trade you have posted. In my mind it isn't enough to get Zeke but should at least get a reply and you can talk from there. Then again, your targeted owner my be someone that had/has a man-crush on Gurley and will be glad to leave the Zeke news cycle behind him.
Give it a shot, what the heck.
Re: Fair Zeke Value?
It's not enough. Taylor is not nearly enough of an upgrade at QB.
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Re: Fair Zeke Value?
Not close with Tyrod not even guaranteed to be the starter Week 1. He probably still will be but the Bills are just too volatile right now and you're asking for Eli back when there's a good chance Eli will outscore Tyrod.
Re: Fair Zeke Value?
It would be more fair if you replaced Tyrod with someone like Cam, Ryan, Dak or Cousins.
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Re: Fair Zeke Value?
But this is a superflex league and right now Eli is ranked as a QB 22 and Tyrod is a QB 12. Gurley is ranked as an RB 7 and zeke is an RB 3. Granted I know the bellcurve at the top of every positional player is substantial, I think the perennial suspension potential problems of Zeke may negate that difference.
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Re: Fair Zeke Value?
I still say you should float your original trade out to the owner. It is all too common to see people negotiating with the majority opinion on this website instead of actually talking to the potential trade partners.
Also, the Rams offense looked good yesterday: Goff, Gurley, Kupp. It may be coming to life under their new head coach and Gurley's value on the rise. Now is an excellent time to talk while that game is fresh.
Also, the Rams offense looked good yesterday: Goff, Gurley, Kupp. It may be coming to life under their new head coach and Gurley's value on the rise. Now is an excellent time to talk while that game is fresh.
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Re: Fair Zeke Value?
I would need a better QB. Tyrod's value seems like it could mostly disappear any day now.
Like others said, it is worth a shot.
Like others said, it is worth a shot.
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Re: Fair Zeke Value?
Zeke, even though I think Tyrod is undervalued in dynasty.
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Re: Fair Zeke Value?
I like the Zeke side, but if I was you I would still float the offer out there. If you can get eli/zeke for Tyrod/Gurley thats a solid deal.
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