Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
-
- Practice Squad
- Posts: 190
- Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:51 pm
Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Who has the higher ceiling? Who will be more valuable in 2019?
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
All three are very good in my opinion. I think in terms of ceiling, Mixon probably has the highest. I'd say Howard has the highest floor since he's the only one who's actually had a RB1 season. A case can be made for all three as being the most valuable in 2019.
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
I agree completely with the above statement....but just for kicks I will give it a shotGoddard wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:02 pm All three are very good in my opinion. I think in terms of ceiling, Mixon probably has the highest. I'd say Howard has the highest floor since he's the only one who's actually had a RB1 season. A case can be made for all three as being the most valuable in 2019.
Mixon
Henry
Howard
12 team dynasty 26 man roster .5 PPR RB. 1.0 PPR wr. 1.5ppr TE..6 pts. all tds.
Start 1 QB..2-3 RBS 2-4 WRS.. 1-2 TES
http://football20.myfantasyleague.com/2 ... L=10388&O=
QB Matt Ryan Patrick Mahommes
RB Bell, Fournette, Aaron Jones, James Connor, Mcguire, Prosise, Josh Adams
WR Julio, JuJu Schuster, Marvin Jones, Josh Gordon,Stills, Antonio Callaway, D.J. CharkJosh MaloneBraxton Miller, 3 Packer rookies
TE Ertz, Ben Watson, Higbee
Def Jax Houston
K Gould
Start 1 QB..2-3 RBS 2-4 WRS.. 1-2 TES
http://football20.myfantasyleague.com/2 ... L=10388&O=
QB Matt Ryan Patrick Mahommes
RB Bell, Fournette, Aaron Jones, James Connor, Mcguire, Prosise, Josh Adams
WR Julio, JuJu Schuster, Marvin Jones, Josh Gordon,Stills, Antonio Callaway, D.J. CharkJosh MaloneBraxton Miller, 3 Packer rookies
TE Ertz, Ben Watson, Higbee
Def Jax Houston
K Gould
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
As far as ceiling I have them:
1 mixon
2 Henry
3 Howard
As well but as far as the way I like them I have:
1 Henry
2 mixon
3 Howard
All are great options though
1 mixon
2 Henry
3 Howard
As well but as far as the way I like them I have:
1 Henry
2 mixon
3 Howard
All are great options though
16 team .5 PPR
1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 FLEX
QB-Jared Goff Tom Savage, Jay Cutler, Jimmy Garoppolo
RB-Ezekiel Elliot, Jeremy McNichols Elijah McGuire, Matt Breida
WR-Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins Corey Coleman, Donte Moncreif Braxton Miller, Marquis Lee, Calvin Johnson
TE-David Njoku Vance McDonald, Bucky Hodges, Dwayne Allen, Jared Cook, Adam Shaheen, Eric Swoope
1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 FLEX
QB-Jared Goff Tom Savage, Jay Cutler, Jimmy Garoppolo
RB-Ezekiel Elliot, Jeremy McNichols Elijah McGuire, Matt Breida
WR-Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins Corey Coleman, Donte Moncreif Braxton Miller, Marquis Lee, Calvin Johnson
TE-David Njoku Vance McDonald, Bucky Hodges, Dwayne Allen, Jared Cook, Adam Shaheen, Eric Swoope
-
- Degenerate
- Posts: 8831
- Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 1:47 pm
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Three very interesting names and super tough to rank
Howard
Mixon
Henry
Howard
Mixon
Henry
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Ceiling - Mixon, Howard, Henry
Dynasty Value - Howard, Mixon, Henry
All very close though.
Dynasty Value - Howard, Mixon, Henry
All very close though.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
- LondonMonarchs
- Role Player
- Posts: 494
- Joined: Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:01 pm
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
X2
12 TE Prem - Orphan Full rebuild
QB - S.Darnold, D.Lock
RB - J. Taylor, CEH, K. Hunt, A.McFarland, R.Armstead, D.Evans, D. Dallas, L.Bowden
WR - C. Lamb, J.Jeudy, J. Jefferson, H. Ruggs, D.Mims, L.Shenault, P.Campbell, Z.Pascal, A. Lazard
TE - T.Hockenson, B.Jarwin, D.Knox, J.Smith
2x 2021 1st
12team, PPR, SF
QB-RBx2-WRx2-SF-FLX
QB - Baker, Prescott, Stidham
RB - D.Freeman,A.Jones, Jam.Williams, R.JIII, K.Balage, G.Edwards
WR -Evans, Smith-Schuster, Golladay, C. Godwin, T.Higgins, A. Lazard
TE - D. Waller, I.Thomas
QB - S.Darnold, D.Lock
RB - J. Taylor, CEH, K. Hunt, A.McFarland, R.Armstead, D.Evans, D. Dallas, L.Bowden
WR - C. Lamb, J.Jeudy, J. Jefferson, H. Ruggs, D.Mims, L.Shenault, P.Campbell, Z.Pascal, A. Lazard
TE - T.Hockenson, B.Jarwin, D.Knox, J.Smith
2x 2021 1st
12team, PPR, SF
QB-RBx2-WRx2-SF-FLX
QB - Baker, Prescott, Stidham
RB - D.Freeman,A.Jones, Jam.Williams, R.JIII, K.Balage, G.Edwards
WR -Evans, Smith-Schuster, Golladay, C. Godwin, T.Higgins, A. Lazard
TE - D. Waller, I.Thomas
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Howard
Henry
Mixon
I'm not sure exactly what Howard needs to do better to convince people how talented he is. Maybe the ability to fly or turn invisible on command? I can understand a debate existing between Henry and Mixon but there is a clear gap here for me.
Henry
Mixon
I'm not sure exactly what Howard needs to do better to convince people how talented he is. Maybe the ability to fly or turn invisible on command? I can understand a debate existing between Henry and Mixon but there is a clear gap here for me.
If you can't leave at least a 20% tip, you can't afford to eat out.
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Well Skippy, are you out of your effin' gourd ? A "clear" gap ... why I oughta come slap those fogged up coke bottle eyeglasses off your head so you can see straight !
Did I cover all the bases in your Sig Jk in the previous comment. I don't see a gap as all have a strength over the others in at least one area. Agility and pass catching clearly lean in Mixon's favor. Straight line speed is a toss up between Mixon and Henry. Offensive line nod goes to Henry. Competition for touches right now is clearly on the side of Howard. Proven production also goes in the Howard column.
Personal preference is going to determine where they rank. Long term ppr I'd say Mixon is the better bet,assuming the Bungles address the offensive line issues the next two years.If not it a toss up between all three.
Standard scoring long term I like Henry behind Tennessee line.Murray while holding him back now will extend his career by these couple of years of learning as the backup. Howard will take a pounding with teams stacking the box because of the Bears inept QB situation. Mixon has a bad line but far more help in the Red Rifle and all the weapons around him to keep the defenses honest.
Redraft leagues for this year and probably next year too Howard should be atop this list barring injury. He has an above average line and a coach that will still run in the 4th qtr down double digits. I do worry about Howard losing all passing downs role to Tarik Cohen though. Jordan's hands are bad, I know he said he's working on it but Cohen in a hurry up or needing a big play to get back in the game is going to be hard to keep off the field.
My preference is dynasty league so I have them:
Mixon
Henry
Howard
- pierson242
- Ring of Fame
- Posts: 3642
- Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:55 am
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Howard and Mixon
Henry
Henry
Devy Writer and Ranker for DLF
Follow me on Twitter @PiersonFF
Follow me on Twitter @PiersonFF
-
- Degenerate
- Posts: 8831
- Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 1:47 pm
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Create a time machine and go higher in the draft. Then he'll be legit!
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Ceiling .............. MIXON Future Value ................ MIXON , I own Henry too , love him, but give me Joe.
Full Dynasty for (34 yrs.) 10 Teams ppr R. Wilson, K. Murray , W. Levis , K. Cousins.
./ , A. Kamara, S. Barkley , N. Harris , K. Williams, G. Edwards, K. Miller/. ,Godwin, .DK , A.J. Brown, C. Olave, T. Burks, M. Mims, Tank Dell / M. Andrews, T. McBride, D. Waller. / H. Buckner , J . Moody / Patriots & Rams .
./ , A. Kamara, S. Barkley , N. Harris , K. Williams, G. Edwards, K. Miller/. ,Godwin, .DK , A.J. Brown, C. Olave, T. Burks, M. Mims, Tank Dell / M. Andrews, T. McBride, D. Waller. / H. Buckner , J . Moody / Patriots & Rams .
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Traded Howard in two leagues to grab Mixon at #2 and #3. Unfortunately he went at #2 in both and missed out.
Mixon
Henry
Howard
If only considering this year,
Mixon
Howard
Henry
Mixon
Henry
Howard
If only considering this year,
Mixon
Howard
Henry
Team 1: 12 Team Non-PPR Salary
1QB 2RB 3WR/TE 2FLEX
QBs: Luck, Wilson
RBs: D Johnson, D Cook, D Martin, R Kelley, D Henry, M Gillislee, J Conner, A Jones, D Jackson, E Hood
WRs: M Evans, M Thomas, K Allen, D Moncrief, C Meredith, W Snead, C Samuel, C Henderson, Z Jones, T Boyd
TEs: none
PICKS: All 2018 picks + additional 1st and 3rd.
All 2019 Picks
Team 2: 10 Team Non-PPR
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLEX
QB: Wilson, Watson
RB: D Johnson, J Mixon, L Fournette, R Kelley, C Thompson, Dam Williams
WR: S Watkins, D Bryant, D Hopkins, K Allen, J Matthews, W Snead, T Gabriel, J Smith-Schuster, C Beasley, R Anderson
TE: O Howard, M Bennett
PICKS: All 2019 Picks
1QB 2RB 3WR/TE 2FLEX
QBs: Luck, Wilson
RBs: D Johnson, D Cook, D Martin, R Kelley, D Henry, M Gillislee, J Conner, A Jones, D Jackson, E Hood
WRs: M Evans, M Thomas, K Allen, D Moncrief, C Meredith, W Snead, C Samuel, C Henderson, Z Jones, T Boyd
TEs: none
PICKS: All 2018 picks + additional 1st and 3rd.
All 2019 Picks
Team 2: 10 Team Non-PPR
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLEX
QB: Wilson, Watson
RB: D Johnson, J Mixon, L Fournette, R Kelley, C Thompson, Dam Williams
WR: S Watkins, D Bryant, D Hopkins, K Allen, J Matthews, W Snead, T Gabriel, J Smith-Schuster, C Beasley, R Anderson
TE: O Howard, M Bennett
PICKS: All 2019 Picks
-
- Combine Attendee
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:12 pm
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
Howard
Henry
Mixon
Howard was second in the league in rushing last year, and projects to be the focus of the Bears' offense. He averaged 5.2 ypc with the Bears... He's a proven NFL commodity.
Henry is still behind Murray, though he may be the RB of the future of the improving Titans offense.
Mixon, to my eye is overrated, and a bust candidate. Perine was more utilized by the Oklahoma coaching staff. Mixon wasn't a workhorse back in college, so projecting him as such in the NFL is a stretch, IMO. Not having to be subject to electronic timing at the combine has created the perception by some that he is faster than he is. As a rule of thumb, I add a tenth of a second to any player's pro day 40 time to my evaluation. (has any player ever had a slower pro day 40 time than a combine 40 time?) It also would not surprise me that grown men with families, daughters, in the Bengals locker room (yes, even the Bengals locker room) will not be as welcoming to him as to other rookies. To my eye, Hill is criminally underrated by much of the FF community (he is a TD machine), and Gio, if healthy, is also a quality all-purpose RB. Finally, watching film, I do not see Mixon's ability as extraordinary; I believe both Hill and Gio are better RBs.
Henry
Mixon
Howard was second in the league in rushing last year, and projects to be the focus of the Bears' offense. He averaged 5.2 ypc with the Bears... He's a proven NFL commodity.
Henry is still behind Murray, though he may be the RB of the future of the improving Titans offense.
Mixon, to my eye is overrated, and a bust candidate. Perine was more utilized by the Oklahoma coaching staff. Mixon wasn't a workhorse back in college, so projecting him as such in the NFL is a stretch, IMO. Not having to be subject to electronic timing at the combine has created the perception by some that he is faster than he is. As a rule of thumb, I add a tenth of a second to any player's pro day 40 time to my evaluation. (has any player ever had a slower pro day 40 time than a combine 40 time?) It also would not surprise me that grown men with families, daughters, in the Bengals locker room (yes, even the Bengals locker room) will not be as welcoming to him as to other rookies. To my eye, Hill is criminally underrated by much of the FF community (he is a TD machine), and Gio, if healthy, is also a quality all-purpose RB. Finally, watching film, I do not see Mixon's ability as extraordinary; I believe both Hill and Gio are better RBs.
-
- Legend
- Posts: 6519
- Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:13 pm
Re: Jordan Howard / Derrick Henry / Joe Mixon
I'm not sold on Howard yet, but he probably should have the most value of the three. My concern is that he's a big back that kicks it to the outside way too much and a lot of his yardage was outside the tackles, which is hard to repeat unless your in a Shanahan type zone system. Hill had the same indicator in his big year, as did Gurley in 2015. It's not a major red flag for me at this point, but worth monitoring. The bigger issue for me is that offense is going to be rough and the team as a whole seems likely to be losing a lot of games which will have game flow working against him. I'd be looking to move Howard at his peak if I owned him.
You're probably going to have to hold on to Mixon and Henry to attain any real value. I really like Henry, but Murray is still an excellent RB right now and will limit Henry's upside. I also see the offense shifting to more passing with all the investment they made on receivers this year.
I'm not convinced Mixon is a sure thing. Both Hill & Gio had rough years in terms of efficiency last year and that line is a big ole question mark to me at this point, especially the interior. He may not find many more holes than the other guys. I get that he's a great pass catcher, but Gio appears to be fully recovered and I believe Mixon will struggle to unseat Gio in that role.
You're probably going to have to hold on to Mixon and Henry to attain any real value. I really like Henry, but Murray is still an excellent RB right now and will limit Henry's upside. I also see the offense shifting to more passing with all the investment they made on receivers this year.
I'm not convinced Mixon is a sure thing. Both Hill & Gio had rough years in terms of efficiency last year and that line is a big ole question mark to me at this point, especially the interior. He may not find many more holes than the other guys. I get that he's a great pass catcher, but Gio appears to be fully recovered and I believe Mixon will struggle to unseat Gio in that role.
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests