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Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby bpedersen » Fri May 12, 2017 2:02 pm

I see no conversations of Joe Williams being a top talent. He went first round in our draft with a lot of people wanting him. He gets no love on the Dynasty community and with his talent, speed, and in shanahan offense why not???

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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby AussieMate » Fri May 12, 2017 4:06 pm

He was seen by alot of scouts as a 6th rounder from what I read (might be because of off field issues). Hyde is still considered a talent by some. I like Joe Williams alot but there is no way I use a first on him. Or a second. Also some of us want him to stay unknown before our drafts lol

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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby Goddard » Fri May 12, 2017 7:30 pm

I like Joe a lot and his landing spot, but late 2nd is the earliest I'd take him right now.

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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby bsp27 » Fri May 12, 2017 11:34 pm

oh rookie fever...
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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 13, 2017 1:41 am

Goddard wrote: Fri May 12, 2017 7:30 pm I like Joe a lot and his landing spot, but late 2nd is the earliest I'd take him right now.
Exactly. He had a 6th round to UDFA grade. Sure, Shanny "pounded the table" for him, but I'm sure Grigson pounded the table for Dorsett, too. Doesn't mean he'll succeed.
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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby Chuck_The_Deuce » Sat May 13, 2017 6:26 am

benpickering44 wrote: Fri May 12, 2017 11:34 pm oh rookie fever...
This. Listen to the most recent Underworld podcast, MK talks about this
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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby bigbuck22 » Sat May 13, 2017 5:49 pm

Didn't they also trade a 5th rd pick for Kapri Bibbs? Obviously Williams is talented but they have more invested in Bibbs to this point. It may not be completely clear cut.
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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby Goddard » Sat May 13, 2017 6:33 pm

bigbuck22 wrote: Sat May 13, 2017 5:49 pm Didn't they also trade a 5th rd pick for Kapri Bibbs? Obviously Williams is talented but they have more invested in Bibbs to this point. It may not be completely clear cut.
They took Williams in the 4th and had to trade up to get him. I doubt Bibbs makes the team, but even if he does, I'd take my chances with Williams over him.

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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby ericanadian » Sun May 14, 2017 11:11 am

I would think his evaluation was likely fairly low due to such a limited resume. He went on an absolute tear last year, but it was only like six or seven games. That said, Hyde did well in the zone-read under Kelly, so I see no reason to expect him to let Williams slip by him unless you're worried about Hyde's durability.

Williams is a decent upside pick, but I can't see reaching for him in the first. I hope it's not a PPR league. I would rank him in the early to mid twenties, so mid to late second.
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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun May 14, 2017 1:26 pm

He went in the late 2nd! In the league my sig is in. Crazy.
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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby SteveVolk » Sun May 14, 2017 6:15 pm

Hard to imagine taking a shot on this guy in the first round. If that happens in my upcoming drafts I'll be thrilled that someone else falls to me. —Best, Steve

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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Sun May 14, 2017 8:21 pm

I'd rather have the other Williams, Jamaal. I think he's got a better chance to become a starter than Joe.
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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby Crwdstunna » Sun May 14, 2017 8:43 pm

I'd much rather prefer Joe in the late 2nd/early 3rd.
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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby Weeman » Tue May 16, 2017 1:24 am

My issue with drafting him higher than late 2nd is that he was never high on my board to begin with...& I feel this is a great rookie class but it seems like the assumption is all these RBs will be workhorses & take ppls jobs. He seems like a talented RB but I have to assume that this team will stink & draft a guy with higher draft pedigree to carry them. Especially without a QB, i see this team building around defense, a solid run-game & then inserting a game clock manager type QB. But before they do that their going to continue to ride the Hyde train it seems. Anyways A starting TE, a teams wr2 or 3 can still be Acquired in the 2nd rd. The price paid for some williams truthers seems to steep.

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Re: Joe Williams 1st round pick

Postby Servo » Tue May 16, 2017 5:40 am

Joe meets Rotoviz's criteria on potentially becoming a successful back....yet, when you envision a first round pick you'd think of someone with a clear path up the depth chart in front of them. Say what you want about Hyde and even Hightower (who has played decently as of late), it's not so rosy.

Rotoviz has come up with a way to better predict RB success and they have guys like Joe Williams and McNichols ahead of the likes of Hunt and Kamara, so I'm following them to a T and will gladly take Joe Williams over them. But even with that said, I'm not spending a 1st or an early 2nd on him.


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