Gronk or Gordon?
Gronk or Gordon?
I'm interested in acquiring Melvin Gordon, but I want to be careful on how much I offer. So I am brainstorming some possible trade ideas. Which side wins? If it's lopsided, what rookie draft picks could be applied to either side in order to balance them out?
TEAMS 1&2: 10tm. Non-PPR +IDP.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB
TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.
TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB
TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.
TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.
Re: Gronk or Gordon?
Gordon for me. A mid 1st would probably close the gap.
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BigBawseRoss
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Re: Gronk or Gordon?
Gordon based on age and lack of back surgeries. id say a 2nd round pick would close the game or throw in a young upside player like a cam meredith or marquise lee
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Ryantacular
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Re: Gronk or Gordon?
Gordon for me.
Re: Gronk or Gordon?
Gordon is safer. I think Gronk is becoming a risky boom or bust proposition.
Re: Gronk or Gordon?
This poll is pretty close, but the responses are unanimous on the Gordon side. 
Re: Gronk or Gordon?
I picked Gordon, fairly easily. He's the RB4 in my eyes based on what the Chargers did in the draft-no competition, not even a passing down back, and they solidified their o-line. I would consider moving him for Gronk if I needed a TE to push me over the top and had good RB depth or if I was in a TE prem league.
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TheDogPound
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Re: Gronk or Gordon?
I voted Gordon primarily because of Gronk's health issues. He is such a huge target and damaging player that he's always an injury risk. If this was a video game and we could edit his injury risk to 100% then I'd take Gronk. He's so dominant when he's playing and he is Brady's GO-To #1 option when healthy.
However, when thinking Dynasty and considering the health issue, give me Gordon. I just read an article that talked about Talent, Opportunity, and Environment as being metrics to determine a player's fantasy value. Yes, Gronk exceeds within all of these metrics, however he loses when you consider the injury history. Gordon is in a great environment, showcased the talent, and is the lead back with rare 3 down workhorse potential, especially with Woodhead out of town.
If he can build off of his success last season then the sky is the limit, IMO.
However, when thinking Dynasty and considering the health issue, give me Gordon. I just read an article that talked about Talent, Opportunity, and Environment as being metrics to determine a player's fantasy value. Yes, Gronk exceeds within all of these metrics, however he loses when you consider the injury history. Gordon is in a great environment, showcased the talent, and is the lead back with rare 3 down workhorse potential, especially with Woodhead out of town.
If he can build off of his success last season then the sky is the limit, IMO.
Re: Gronk or Gordon?
Thanks everyone. Some good feedback here. Gordon's value certainly increased after the draft, so I wanted to see if I could afford him.
TEAMS 1&2: 10tm. Non-PPR +IDP.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB
TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.
TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB
TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.
TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.
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Re: Gronk or Gordon?
Gordon has been an inefficient runner so far in the NFL, he just happened to score a bleep ton of TDs last year. While that's partially a product of being in a good offense, TDs are also very inconsistent so he's due for regression. Makes him more of a high-mid RB2 going forward for me.
Gronk is an elite asset at TE. I'll take Gronk.
Gronk is an elite asset at TE. I'll take Gronk.
Orphaned team before 2017 draft
12 team full PPR/balanced IDP scoring/ salary
Start QB,RB,2WR,TE,3WR/RB/TE,K,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DL/LB/DB(40 active)
QB: Stafford, Siemien, Kaepernick
RB: D Murray, Riddick, Powell, Gilislee, D Lewis, Hunt, McNichols
WR: Adams, Coleman, Beasley, Funchess, A Ellington, M Wheaton, C Henderson, Taywan Taylor, I Ford, Zamora
TE: L Green, Fleener, J Smith
K: Gonzalez
DL: Atkins, Dareus, Tuitt, Armstead, A Hicks, Lawson, Jon Allen, McDowell
LB: J Brown, J Hicks, Burfict, Ray, Thompson, J Jenkins, Ford, Beckwith, D Riley, B Brown, Reeves-Maybin
DB: Geathers, Reid, B Jones, Pryor, Maye, Harvey-Clemons, Gerry
2018: Own + 3 3rds, 1 4th, 1 7th
Before taking over:
QB: Brees, Roethlisberger, Kaepernick, Geno
RB: Hill, Lewis, Ellington, T Mason, B Pierce, K Davis
WR: Adams, Treadwell, Funchess, Braxton Miller, Amendola, T Benjamin, Wheaton, V Jackson
TE: Gates
DL: Atkins, Darius, Armstead, Fowler, Lawson
LB: Freeman, Jack, Ray, Jackson, Ford
DB: Reid, Jenkins,
12 team full PPR/balanced IDP scoring/ salary
Start QB,RB,2WR,TE,3WR/RB/TE,K,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DL/LB/DB(40 active)
QB: Stafford, Siemien, Kaepernick
RB: D Murray, Riddick, Powell, Gilislee, D Lewis, Hunt, McNichols
WR: Adams, Coleman, Beasley, Funchess, A Ellington, M Wheaton, C Henderson, Taywan Taylor, I Ford, Zamora
TE: L Green, Fleener, J Smith
K: Gonzalez
DL: Atkins, Dareus, Tuitt, Armstead, A Hicks, Lawson, Jon Allen, McDowell
LB: J Brown, J Hicks, Burfict, Ray, Thompson, J Jenkins, Ford, Beckwith, D Riley, B Brown, Reeves-Maybin
DB: Geathers, Reid, B Jones, Pryor, Maye, Harvey-Clemons, Gerry
2018: Own + 3 3rds, 1 4th, 1 7th
Before taking over:
QB: Brees, Roethlisberger, Kaepernick, Geno
RB: Hill, Lewis, Ellington, T Mason, B Pierce, K Davis
WR: Adams, Treadwell, Funchess, Braxton Miller, Amendola, T Benjamin, Wheaton, V Jackson
TE: Gates
DL: Atkins, Darius, Armstead, Fowler, Lawson
LB: Freeman, Jack, Ray, Jackson, Ford
DB: Reid, Jenkins,
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