Barkley vs Zeke

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Barkley vs Zeke

Postby krombj19 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:48 am

Who do you guys like more? I tend to lean on the Barkley side, but id be hard pressed to accept Zeke for Barkley just because I know Zeke is proven already.
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RB - Saquon Barkley 2YRS at $35, Dalvin Cook 1YR at $17, Rex Burkhead 1YR at $4, Ty Montgomery 3YRS at $14, Damien Williams 1YR at $2, Royce Freeman 2YRS at $10

WR - Amari Cooper EX 5YRS at $50, Sammy Watkins EX 3YRS at $60, Golden Tate 1YR at $60, Devante Parker EX 1YR at $35, Kenny Golladay 4YRS at $2

TE - Travis Kelce EX 5YRS at $52, Austin Hooper 2YRS at $12

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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby dynastyninja » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:16 am

Saquon probably isn't going to land in a situation like Zeke has in Dallas. I'm hesitant to move Saquon myself, but I'd have to do it for Zeke.

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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby krombj19 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:37 am

But Zeke for Barkley and Amari Cooper would be too much to give up?
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QB - Jameis Winston EX 2YRS at $42 and Sam Darnold 2YRS at $14

RB - Saquon Barkley 2YRS at $35, Dalvin Cook 1YR at $17, Rex Burkhead 1YR at $4, Ty Montgomery 3YRS at $14, Damien Williams 1YR at $2, Royce Freeman 2YRS at $10

WR - Amari Cooper EX 5YRS at $50, Sammy Watkins EX 3YRS at $60, Golden Tate 1YR at $60, Devante Parker EX 1YR at $35, Kenny Golladay 4YRS at $2

TE - Travis Kelce EX 5YRS at $52, Austin Hooper 2YRS at $12

D/ST - Rams 1YR at $2, Chiefs 1YR at $3

K - Stephen Gostowski 1YR at $3

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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:00 pm

krombj19 wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:37 am
But Zeke for Barkley and Amari Cooper would be too much to give up?
Yeah, I think that is too much. But still Zeke > Barkley at least until we know where Barkley is going.
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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby JJRules » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:20 pm

Zeke is exactly who we hope Barkley becomes from a fantasy perspective. Barkley plus Cooper sounds fairish, but I'd be hard-pressed to part with a talent like Zeke. Overpay or go home, and I'm not sure 1.01+Cooper qualifies.
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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:33 pm

I would not sell Zeke for the 1.01 unless I was getting about the 1.03 back on top of Saquon
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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby krombj19 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:43 pm

so would Zeke for Barkley, Cooper, Rams Defense be too much?
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QB - Jameis Winston EX 2YRS at $42 and Sam Darnold 2YRS at $14

RB - Saquon Barkley 2YRS at $35, Dalvin Cook 1YR at $17, Rex Burkhead 1YR at $4, Ty Montgomery 3YRS at $14, Damien Williams 1YR at $2, Royce Freeman 2YRS at $10

WR - Amari Cooper EX 5YRS at $50, Sammy Watkins EX 3YRS at $60, Golden Tate 1YR at $60, Devante Parker EX 1YR at $35, Kenny Golladay 4YRS at $2

TE - Travis Kelce EX 5YRS at $52, Austin Hooper 2YRS at $12

D/ST - Rams 1YR at $2, Chiefs 1YR at $3

K - Stephen Gostowski 1YR at $3

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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby dynastyninja » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:14 pm

Barkley/Cooper is ridiculous for Zeke. Do not do that.

Barkley has more pure talent than Zeke. Adding Cooper to the deal is absurd. I'd take Zeke because he's safer, but Barkley has more upside and is ~1.5 years younger. Throwing Cooper in is setting yourself up for failure.

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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby DrNoish » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:29 pm

I don't think your team is at a place where giving up your best WR and Barkley makes sense. I could see it if Zeke's contract is really good, but with your team you're way better off just watching to see Cooper and Barkley. Zeke is the highest value he will be ever. Buying now without any support at all to compete just doesn't make any sense with your large starting requirement. Plus, there's nothing saying Barkley ends up in a crappy situation, and people are locked at 1.01 assuming he will be. He will do nothing but go up after the draft. Don't move.
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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby gameaholica » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:33 pm

Nope... point out to the Zeke owner that he will face more in the box with Dez gone. Zeke for 1.1 or move along.

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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:06 pm

gameaholica wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:33 pm
Nope... point out to the Zeke owner that he will face more in the box with Dez gone. Zeke for 1.1 or move along.

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Safeties weren't worrying about Dez last year. You don't need to give good corners safety help on Dez anymore. Zeke is worth more than the 1.01. Losing Dez doesn't change that. Dez has not been the focus of a defense since about half way through Zeke's rookie year. They are trying to stop Zeke and still can't. That OL are maulers. Zeke is the perfect back for that team as an elite interior runner.
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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby gameaholica » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:38 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:06 pm
gameaholica wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:33 pm
Nope... point out to the Zeke owner that he will face more in the box with Dez gone. Zeke for 1.1 or move along.

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Safeties weren't worrying about Dez last year. You don't need to give good corners safety help on Dez anymore. Zeke is worth more than the 1.01. Losing Dez doesn't change that. Dez has not been the focus of a defense since about half way through Zeke's rookie year. They are trying to stop Zeke and still can't. That OL are maulers. Zeke is the perfect back for that team as an elite interior runner.
I wasn't arguing a point... I was suggesting to OP to say this to try and get Zeke or walk away if the Zeke owner was still asking too much.
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Re: Barkley vs Zeke

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:06 am

gameaholica wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:38 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:06 pm
gameaholica wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:33 pm
Nope... point out to the Zeke owner that he will face more in the box with Dez gone. Zeke for 1.1 or move along.

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Safeties weren't worrying about Dez last year. You don't need to give good corners safety help on Dez anymore. Zeke is worth more than the 1.01. Losing Dez doesn't change that. Dez has not been the focus of a defense since about half way through Zeke's rookie year. They are trying to stop Zeke and still can't. That OL are maulers. Zeke is the perfect back for that team as an elite interior runner.
I wasn't arguing a point... I was suggesting to OP to say this to try and get Zeke or walk away if the Zeke owner was still asking too much.
My apologies.
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