Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

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Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:53 am

First off, I apologize if I'm leaving out needed info. Please let me know. I've only posted on here once before so I'm not as well-versed in contract leagues.

I have been offered the 1.07 rookie pick ($11.50) from another owner, as well as a 2018 4th ($1), in exchange for CJFied ($1/ 1 more year), Trey Flowers ($1.50/ 3 more years), and Bernardick McKinney ($1/ 6 more years)

This league is TE-premium, and extremely balanced towards IDPs, so Trey Flowers, in an inconsistent "breakout" year where he wasn't always a full time player, still scored just as many pts as Quincy Enunwa for instance, and almost as many pts as Jerick McKinnon

Right now my TEs are thin (Ebron is my only other TE going into 2017, although the rosters are small enough I can pick up some fliers. Pitta, Rudolph, and Zach Miller were all on waivers during week 1). My DL cupboard is pretty stacked (Flowers is my DL6), and my LB corps will be ok without BM, but how valuable is the 1.07 in this situation, especially when considering the much higher salary that rookie will have when compared with these other nice pieces?

I still really struggle to get my head around contract leagues, & I don't know if this is no-brainer accept, or a no-brainer decline, or something in between :/
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:57 am

Btw, for context on the rookie's salary: Corey Coleman is at $12.50, Treadwell is at $14, Moncrief is at $20, Dez is at $29, Evans is at $35, D. Parker is at $16.50, David Johnson is at $41, Lamar Miller is at like $35, Davonta Freeman is around $22.

We just did the startup auction last year so contracts are a bit askew

$250 salary cap, 44-man rosters btw.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

Postby bruiser » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:07 am

That one is somewhere in between. Who would you be looking at 1.07? That's a lot of production you will be giving up for a lottery ticket.

What kind of production would you need from 1.07 to validate a salary of $11.50? I mean, would a player need to be RB20 or WR25, etc. That may be a lot to expect from a rookie. You have great value in the other three by salary alone. I'd probably want more value. Let's consider the 2018 4th immaterial.
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Re: Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:58 pm

$11.50 is the 20th most expensive RB

$11.50 is the 37th most expensive WR

I would probably target the top TE, or one of the 2nd tier RBs (Foreman, McCaffrey, Mixon, Gallman)
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

Postby bruiser » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:48 am

Ok, but you've got McKinney for $1. I like Fiedorowicz going forward. I don't know if this helps you in a deep format. In a shallow format, go for it.
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Re: Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:44 pm

I did the deal but he also gave me Leo Williams for $4/yr
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

Postby DynastyZach » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:22 pm

Just an opinion but after seeing the combine numbers I'd like McCaffrey at that 1.07 pick(if he's there). I might be biased though because I remember his father Ed McCaffrey playing for the Broncos back in the day. Still that 3 cone drill and his athleticism is amazing.

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Re: Should I trade pieces for the 1.07? New to salary cap leagues

Postby Kleva1 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:32 pm

With salary and contracts it's really hard to draft a TE due to how long it usually takes for them to be productive.

The start up auction definitely has the salaries skewed. I feel like that is inevitable though. When those contracts start melting off the value of the rookie picks will increase.

Are there contract extensions? The price of the rookie contract isn't bad. The prices of mid tier players usually gets ridiculous in my leagues FA auction. 1st rd Draft picks help bc in the future when the start up auction contracts are gone they are usually cheap and give you flexibility in the auction.

I also don't really value late round picks. Sure there are instances where a player hits but a lot of the time they get productive after the initial rookie contract and we're roster cloggers. But I'm not in idp so I'm not sure what a late round pick is.
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Salary Cap $1145
Cap room available -$47

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QB - Tom Brady ($125, 1yrs), Phillip Rivers ($62, 3Yrs), Lamar Jackson ($15, 3 yrs)
RB - Gurley ($131, 3 yrs) Hyde ($81, 2 yrs) Joe Mixon ($44, 2 yrs), Jamaal Williams ($22, 2 yrs) Duke Johnson ($25, 3 yrs) John Kelly ($10, 3 yrs)
WR- Watkins ($106, 4 yrs) Michael Thomas ($47, 4 yrs) Stefon Diggs ($14, 3 yrs) Jamison Crowder ($10, 2 yrs) DeVante Parker ($58, 3 yrs) Martavis Bryant ($11, 4 yrs), Doug Baldwin ($41, 4 yrs) Corey Davis ($55, 2 yrs), Michael Gallup ($20, 3 yrs) Marquez Scantling-Valdes ($1, 5 yrs)
TE - Eric Ebron ($63, 2 yrs) Greg Olsen ($125, 1 yr)

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