Hey guys. Asking some advice for team two in my signature. Another guy in the league just posted on the message board and is heavily shopping his WRs. How he ever ended up with this haul is beyond me, but here is who he has:
Dez
AJ Green
Demaryius
Calvin
Gordon
Gronk
L Bell
His post was saying that he'd be willing to send 1-2 of those WRs for a premiere RB and a good WR in return. I'd love to get a deal done and add a dynamite 3rd WR (already own Julio/Brown) but want to make sure the initial offer isn't insulting. He is desperate for RB help, his RB2 is Gerhart. I'm fine parting with McCoy, Charles, or Hyde.
Also, should the Dez thing scare me away from him or should I use it to my advantage?
AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
Last edited by smithmn on Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Dez + AJG for Charles +
He made an initial offer:
AJ Green
1.07
for
Jordy Nelson
Jamaal Charles
Allen Robinson
Thoughts? Team two in my signature.
AJ Green
1.07
for
Jordy Nelson
Jamaal Charles
Allen Robinson
Thoughts? Team two in my signature.
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
As much as I love aj I think I would pass on this. Seems too much to give up. Jordy puts up some great numbers of his own. So adding Charles and a rob is a little rich for me even with getting the 1.07 in the deal.
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Stroud, Lamar Geno, Dobbs, Young
RB: CMC eitiene, Hall, Jevante Williams, Perine
WR: Jefferson, Waddle, Pittman, Olave, d Smith, N brown
TE: Goedart, Chig
2024 3ones
2025 5ones
Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Richardson, Young
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Taylor, Swift, sanders, Roshon
WR: Chase, Lamb, waddle, Olave, Watson, Ridley
TE: Pitts, Johnson, Mayer
2024 5 ones 3 twos
QB: Stroud, Lamar Geno, Dobbs, Young
RB: CMC eitiene, Hall, Jevante Williams, Perine
WR: Jefferson, Waddle, Pittman, Olave, d Smith, N brown
TE: Goedart, Chig
2024 3ones
2025 5ones
Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Richardson, Young
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Taylor, Swift, sanders, Roshon
WR: Chase, Lamb, waddle, Olave, Watson, Ridley
TE: Pitts, Johnson, Mayer
2024 5 ones 3 twos
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
Looking at his roster, I think my move would be to leave the league and find a new one that is competitive. But assuming you're not doing that, I think it's a bit too much to pay for AJG. Those are three very nice pieces themselves.
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
I also looked at his roster and wondered how the hell they didn't win the title. The guy abadonded his team after the year too. I did see that he traded his 1st - 3rd round picks in 2015-2016. Not sure how he got 1.07 back.
I actually won the league in the first year. What would a reasonable counter be? I really don't need the 1.07. Would just like AJG.
I actually won the league in the first year. What would a reasonable counter be? I really don't need the 1.07. Would just like AJG.
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
Why would he leave the league when he is the defending champ. But between the op and that other team I can't see many other teams being good as they are both stacked.
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Stroud, Lamar Geno, Dobbs, Young
RB: CMC eitiene, Hall, Jevante Williams, Perine
WR: Jefferson, Waddle, Pittman, Olave, d Smith, N brown
TE: Goedart, Chig
2024 3ones
2025 5ones
Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Richardson, Young
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Taylor, Swift, sanders, Roshon
WR: Chase, Lamb, waddle, Olave, Watson, Ridley
TE: Pitts, Johnson, Mayer
2024 5 ones 3 twos
QB: Stroud, Lamar Geno, Dobbs, Young
RB: CMC eitiene, Hall, Jevante Williams, Perine
WR: Jefferson, Waddle, Pittman, Olave, d Smith, N brown
TE: Goedart, Chig
2024 3ones
2025 5ones
Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Richardson, Young
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Taylor, Swift, sanders, Roshon
WR: Chase, Lamb, waddle, Olave, Watson, Ridley
TE: Pitts, Johnson, Mayer
2024 5 ones 3 twos
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
Because between the poster and the trade partner, they have:imi814 wrote:Why would he leave the league when he is the defending champ. But between the op and that other team I can't see many other teams being good as they are both stacked.
WR: Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Dez Bryant, AJG, Demaryius Thomas, Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, plus ARob and Cooks...
TE: Gronk, Graham, Olsen
RB: LBell, Jamaal Charles, McCoy
That's all of the top 6 WRs (plus Jordy, who could plausibly be the 7th), the top two TEs, plus three of the top 5-10 RBs. And we haven't even seen the rest of the other guy's team. What's left on the other teams?
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
I'm confused, your sig says you have the 1.7, so how is he offering it to you?
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
I'd go for Calvin and Dez, with you sending Charles, Jordy and one more piece. It seems like he is willing to "lose" the deal to secure a RB...
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Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
Seems like a lot to me. Jordy is an awesome WR, not sure why he never gets any love. Also not sure why you need ajg?
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Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
I get where you're coming from, but if this is a money league then you don't walk away from a dominant team. If you're one of the 2 teams that are this stacked, then it's even more likely you're making money on a yearly basis. That's like walking away from an ATM machine that's spitting out money.jeffster wrote:Because between the poster and the trade partner, they have:imi814 wrote:Why would he leave the league when he is the defending champ. But between the op and that other team I can't see many other teams being good as they are both stacked.
WR: Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Dez Bryant, AJG, Demaryius Thomas, Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, plus ARob and Cooks...
TE: Gronk, Graham, Olsen
RB: LBell, Jamaal Charles, McCoy
That's all of the top 6 WRs (plus Jordy, who could plausibly be the 7th), the top two TEs, plus three of the top 5-10 RBs. And we haven't even seen the rest of the other guy's team. What's left on the other teams?
If you want competitiveness and a challenge, there are tons of other leagues to join. I just wouldn't be walking away from a league where I'm setup to cash year in and year out just because most of the owners aren't very good.
-TEAM 1. Year 5 '15/'16 Champ
Ben
Freeman/Cook/Hyde/Crowell/AP/Rawls/JWill(GB)/Gallman/Vereen/Smallwood/Clement
Julio/Jordy/Crowder/Enunwa/JuJu/Zay/Treadwell/JJNelson/Anderson/Switzer
Olsen/Graham/Gathers/Kittle
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Luck/Cousins
Bell/Hunt/Gillislee/Henry/Charles/Rawls/Burkhead
Brown/Jordy/Tate/Moncrief/Enunwa/Meredith/Zay/JJNelson/Anderson/Stewart
Olsen/Ebron/Henry
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Cam/Smith/Trubisky
Zeke/CJA/Montgomery/Ware/Charles/Booker/Burk/Smallwood/Cohen
Brown/Hilton/Diggs/Marvin/Pryor/Parker/Maclin/Meredith/JJNelson
Reed/Doyle/Miller/Gathers
-TEAM 4- Year 3
Wilson/Mariota
Ajayi/Howard/Hyde/Riddick/Vereen/Burk/Clement
OBJ/ARob/MThomas/Landry/Adams/Crowder/MJones/White/Lee/Samuel
Olsen/Rudolph/Swoope/Barnidge
Ben
Freeman/Cook/Hyde/Crowell/AP/Rawls/JWill(GB)/Gallman/Vereen/Smallwood/Clement
Julio/Jordy/Crowder/Enunwa/JuJu/Zay/Treadwell/JJNelson/Anderson/Switzer
Olsen/Graham/Gathers/Kittle
-TEAM 2- Year 5 '13/'16 Champ-'14/'15 R/U
Luck/Cousins
Bell/Hunt/Gillislee/Henry/Charles/Rawls/Burkhead
Brown/Jordy/Tate/Moncrief/Enunwa/Meredith/Zay/JJNelson/Anderson/Stewart
Olsen/Ebron/Henry
-TEAM 3- Year 5 '13-'15 R/U
Cam/Smith/Trubisky
Zeke/CJA/Montgomery/Ware/Charles/Booker/Burk/Smallwood/Cohen
Brown/Hilton/Diggs/Marvin/Pryor/Parker/Maclin/Meredith/JJNelson
Reed/Doyle/Miller/Gathers
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Wilson/Mariota
Ajayi/Howard/Hyde/Riddick/Vereen/Burk/Clement
OBJ/ARob/MThomas/Landry/Adams/Crowder/MJones/White/Lee/Samuel
Olsen/Rudolph/Swoope/Barnidge
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
BuckeyeNation wrote:I get where you're coming from, but if this is a money league then you don't walk away from a dominant team. If you're one of the 2 teams that are this stacked, then it's even more likely you're making money on a yearly basis. That's like walking away from an ATM machine that's spitting out money.jeffster wrote:Because between the poster and the trade partner, they have:imi814 wrote:Why would he leave the league when he is the defending champ. But between the op and that other team I can't see many other teams being good as they are both stacked.
WR: Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Dez Bryant, AJG, Demaryius Thomas, Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, plus ARob and Cooks...
TE: Gronk, Graham, Olsen
RB: LBell, Jamaal Charles, McCoy
That's all of the top 6 WRs (plus Jordy, who could plausibly be the 7th), the top two TEs, plus three of the top 5-10 RBs. And we haven't even seen the rest of the other guy's team. What's left on the other teams?
If you want competitiveness and a challenge, there are tons of other leagues to join. I just wouldn't be walking away from a league where I'm setup to cash year in and year out just because most of the owners aren't very good.
No, you're right there, if it's a money league then keep taking their money! I failed to take that into consideration.
Re: AJG + for Jordy/Charles/ARob
There was a typo. He is offering me 1.05. I have 1.07 currently.
Thanks for the feedback, guys. As for the league, I agree, I wish it was more balanced. I went 11-1 last year and won the title. I made some major trades to get there. So did the guy who has all those WRs. But he ended up 5th in the league. The guy I played in the championship had Peyton, Lacy, Cobb, TY, and a loaded defense. The two guys who lost in the semi-finals also have nice teams. But, I can see from an outside lens it would look like a joke of a league.
Anyways, I rejected the offer. We are working on a counter right now. What do you guys think of:
AJ Green
Blake Bortles
Jonathan Cyprien
for
Jamaal Charles
Donte Moncrief
Kennan Robinson
2.12
Thanks for the feedback, guys. As for the league, I agree, I wish it was more balanced. I went 11-1 last year and won the title. I made some major trades to get there. So did the guy who has all those WRs. But he ended up 5th in the league. The guy I played in the championship had Peyton, Lacy, Cobb, TY, and a loaded defense. The two guys who lost in the semi-finals also have nice teams. But, I can see from an outside lens it would look like a joke of a league.
Anyways, I rejected the offer. We are working on a counter right now. What do you guys think of:
AJ Green
Blake Bortles
Jonathan Cyprien
for
Jamaal Charles
Donte Moncrief
Kennan Robinson
2.12
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