Luck or Mayfield in SF
Luck or Mayfield in SF
Interested in seeing consensus on this. Rankings have Mayfield ranked about 10 spots below Luck, while ADP has them right next to each other. I countered an offer of my Luck and Edelman for his Mayfield alone asking to add Christian Kirk and second round pick swap (my 2.10 for his 2.06) and received a response that Baker has way more market value than Luck.
League is 12 team SF. 28 roster spots. Start 10, 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 flex, 1 SF. 1 PPR
League is 12 team SF. 28 roster spots. Start 10, 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 flex, 1 SF. 1 PPR
Last edited by ajpmn01 on Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
Given Baker’s rookie performance, youth, and new plethora of weapons I think there will be a good number of people who prefer him to Luck. I think Luck is a more talented QB, but I’m unsure if that alone makes him a better fantasy QB or dynasty asset. I want to say I’d take Luck straight up to kind of ramp down what I think is some unfounded hype for Baker, but I’m unsure if I really believe Baker isn’t more valuable now. He’s certainly not Kirk Cousins away in value in a super flex
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
Apologies, I edited original post after seeing this.jcc6fd wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:58 am Given Baker’s rookie performance, youth, and new plethora of weapons I think there will be a good number of people who prefer him to Luck. I think Luck is a more talented QB, but I’m unsure if that alone makes him a better fantasy QB or dynasty asset. I want to say I’d take Luck straight up to kind of ramp down what I think is some unfounded hype for Baker, but I’m unsure if I really believe Baker isn’t more valuable now. He’s certainly not Kirk Cousins away in value in a super flex
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
Ah that makes more sense. I think you’d have to find someone who preferred Luck significantly over Baker and who was pushing for a championship to trade away all those years of production. Doesn’t seem like a trade I see often in dynasty. Calculators would likely have it close and I could see from a proven production standpoint.ajpmn01 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:04 amApologies, I edited original post after seeing this.jcc6fd wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:58 am Given Baker’s rookie performance, youth, and new plethora of weapons I think there will be a good number of people who prefer him to Luck. I think Luck is a more talented QB, but I’m unsure if that alone makes him a better fantasy QB or dynasty asset. I want to say I’d take Luck straight up to kind of ramp down what I think is some unfounded hype for Baker, but I’m unsure if I really believe Baker isn’t more valuable now. He’s certainly not Kirk Cousins away in value in a super flex
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
-
- GOAT
- Posts: 14254
- Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:06 pm
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
I'd rather have Luck. Higher floor and just as much upside. I know some will bring up age since Baker is 5 years younger, but age isn't really a big factor to me for QBs. They all play for a long time.
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
I watched all the Browns games a few weeks ago, and feel Baker is the real deal .. very optimistic for his career. I would roll with him especially if I could get Njoku also ...
@PlankMelody
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
Yeah, I'm super high on Mayfield and I think he's going to be great. However, now that it appears Luck is back and he has a history of consistently producing when healthy, I see him as at least slightly higher than Mayfield. I didn't think Mayfield had way more value than Luck with such a small sample size, but I was willing to part with Luck and still expect to compete with Mayfield as my second QB in SF.
I'm just interested in seeing how the community thinks about their comparative value.
I'm just interested in seeing how the community thinks about their comparative value.
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
Its close but i gotta go with Mayfield honestly. Mayfield is younger, and yes that doesnt really matter when talking QBs BUT id still be hesitant with luck about some of these past injuries, i could unfortunately see them rearing their ugly head again in 2-3 years just because luck is a bit older and Luck decline again. Also right now Mayfields situation on paper looks stacked. But again its close.
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
I can't believe how much love Baker is getting. Give me Luck 10 times out of 10.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
Luck has proven he can be a stud year after year.
Mayfield did fine year 1, but year 2 is usually when we get to see what a player is really made of.
I don't like buying hype. I can absolutely understand why someone would prefer Mayfield, but I'm not there yet.
Gimme Luck, especially in a win-now situation which is what the OP was asking about.
Mayfield did fine year 1, but year 2 is usually when we get to see what a player is really made of.
I don't like buying hype. I can absolutely understand why someone would prefer Mayfield, but I'm not there yet.
Gimme Luck, especially in a win-now situation which is what the OP was asking about.
ULTIMATE RB GURUs
2021 RB Injury Guru: abloom "Akers will suffer an ACL injury in the preseason and does not play during the season."
2021 RB Guru: qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj & McCafsteez -- Winners of the Antonio Gibson Wager!
REAL RB GURUs:
CubfanAA - Anteaters - Ice - JJRules - TheNuts - jtk1234 - Bronco Billy - YouMightDieTryin - hockeyBjj - honcho55 - murphysxm - Patsfan86 - jman3134
2021 RB Injury Guru: abloom "Akers will suffer an ACL injury in the preseason and does not play during the season."
2021 RB Guru: qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj & McCafsteez -- Winners of the Antonio Gibson Wager!
REAL RB GURUs:
CubfanAA - Anteaters - Ice - JJRules - TheNuts - jtk1234 - Bronco Billy - YouMightDieTryin - hockeyBjj - honcho55 - murphysxm - Patsfan86 - jman3134
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
Last year was a re-start for Luck and he had a good year. It will keep getting better each year if he stays healthy. I think they will still add a few more significant weapons for him before the season too. Baker has a few extra years of available production but I still choose Luck.
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
I have Mayfield right above Luck
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
Luck. Mayfield will have some growing pains. Luck is entering his prime.
-
- Legend
- Posts: 6519
- Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:13 pm
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
The hype on Mayfield is out of control. Reminds me of Bradford. Good luck to you guys. I would love Cleveland to actually be a good team, but I think the expectations on this team can only lead to a letdown.
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
Re: Luck or Mayfield in SF
I have a much higher opinion of Bradford than most people do...but I find this comparison somewhat baffling. Outside of both of them showing the ability to be hyper-efficient on deep passes and good at reading and reacting to on-field developments...there are just too many differences to seriously have a good comparison of these two.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:59 pm The hype on Mayfield is out of control. Reminds me of Bradford. Good luck to you guys. I would love Cleveland to actually be a good team, but I think the expectations on this team can only lead to a letdown.
Also (my chance to defend Bradford a bit again), we just don’t know what might have been if he were put behind a good OL and he stayed healthy. I don’t know if there has ever been another qb who has moved team to team to team and just kept moving from bottom dweller OL to bottom dweller OL.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], Google [Bot], heydangle, Majestic-12 [Bot], Menace2010, Randomguess and 48 guests