Another owner really hunting my kamara

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Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby zarathustra » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:12 pm

Getting offered dalvin, Corey Davis, 1.05 and 2020 1st for Kamara and cooks.

How far off is this? Kamara is tough to value.
12 team, Superflex, TE Premium, Half PPR
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE, 1 Superflex

QB: Jackson, Allen, G. Smith
RB: Cook, Henry, Elliott, Montgomery, Carter, Robinson, Mattison, McKissic, Murray, R. Jones, Breida
WR: Jefferson, A. St. Brown, Sutton, Mooney, Dortch, Zaccheaus, D.Carter, Swain, Reagor, A. Rodgers, Atwell, Harry
TE: L. Thomas, H. Henry, J. Smith, Arnold, Dulcich
Taxi: K. Ingram, Virgil

2020: 4-9
2021: 9-5 (3rd)
2022: 7-2

Draft Picks:
2023 4th
2024 3rd, 4th

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby LMS123 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:17 pm

That’s fair; I’d say;
Cook = Cooks
Kamara = Davis, and the 1sts
Jake Fromm State Farm (12 team PPR SF)
QB: Purdy, ARich (TS), Levis (TS), Bagent, Hall, Rudolph, Fromm
RB: Roschon (TS), Allgeier, Hill, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell, K. Harris, E. Wilson
WR: Addison, London, Jmo, Shaheed, Reed (TS), Pop D, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Austin, Gipson, Melton,
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (TS), Trautman, Gray, Jordan
2024: 1.01, 1.07, 2.04, 2.10, 2.11, 3.01, 3.06, 3.07, 3.11
2025: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby zarathustra » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:23 pm

LMS123 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:17 pm That’s fair; I’d say;
Cook = Cooks
Kamara = Davis, and the 1sts
Do you think it improves my team? Assuming a 1st hits
12 team, Superflex, TE Premium, Half PPR
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE, 1 Superflex

QB: Jackson, Allen, G. Smith
RB: Cook, Henry, Elliott, Montgomery, Carter, Robinson, Mattison, McKissic, Murray, R. Jones, Breida
WR: Jefferson, A. St. Brown, Sutton, Mooney, Dortch, Zaccheaus, D.Carter, Swain, Reagor, A. Rodgers, Atwell, Harry
TE: L. Thomas, H. Henry, J. Smith, Arnold, Dulcich
Taxi: K. Ingram, Virgil

2020: 4-9
2021: 9-5 (3rd)
2022: 7-2

Draft Picks:
2023 4th
2024 3rd, 4th

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby The Red Rooster » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:24 pm

Theres no way I would give Kamara AND Cooks for all of those question marks. In fairness tho, those question marks do have high ceilings but this is an easy pass for me.

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby LMS123 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:27 pm

zarathustra wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:23 pm
LMS123 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:17 pm That’s fair; I’d say;
Cook = Cooks
Kamara = Davis, and the 1sts
Do you think it improves my team? Assuming a 1st hits
Assuming they hit I’d say it improves your depth no doubt; but it depends how you define ‘hit’. Top 20 at their position it’s surely does but if they become 150-200 point guys I’d rather have Kamara and Cooks
Jake Fromm State Farm (12 team PPR SF)
QB: Purdy, ARich (TS), Levis (TS), Bagent, Hall, Rudolph, Fromm
RB: Roschon (TS), Allgeier, Hill, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell, K. Harris, E. Wilson
WR: Addison, London, Jmo, Shaheed, Reed (TS), Pop D, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Austin, Gipson, Melton,
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (TS), Trautman, Gray, Jordan
2024: 1.01, 1.07, 2.04, 2.10, 2.11, 3.01, 3.06, 3.07, 3.11
2025: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby mariettajeff » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:28 pm

No friggin way would I take what's offered for Kamara. And I own both Cooks and Davis.
Team 1 Richard Cranium 2015 & 2016 Champion 16 teams 1 PPR 1 QB\1 RB \2 WR \ 1 RB/WR\ 1 TE
Wilson, Mahomes
Gurley, David Johnson, Jonathan Taylor, Darrell Henderson
OBJ, Cooks, Fuller, M. Williams, Courtland Sutton, A.J. Brown
Kelce, Dissly
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OBJ, Cooks, Hopkins, Kirk, Miller, A.J. Brown
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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby zarathustra » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:31 pm

Ok, help me structure a deal.
This is owner's team:

https://sleeper.app/roster/387336453673504768/4
12 team, Superflex, TE Premium, Half PPR
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE, 1 Superflex

QB: Jackson, Allen, G. Smith
RB: Cook, Henry, Elliott, Montgomery, Carter, Robinson, Mattison, McKissic, Murray, R. Jones, Breida
WR: Jefferson, A. St. Brown, Sutton, Mooney, Dortch, Zaccheaus, D.Carter, Swain, Reagor, A. Rodgers, Atwell, Harry
TE: L. Thomas, H. Henry, J. Smith, Arnold, Dulcich
Taxi: K. Ingram, Virgil

2020: 4-9
2021: 9-5 (3rd)
2022: 7-2

Draft Picks:
2023 4th
2024 3rd, 4th

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby Zacsby » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:32 pm

I'd pass on that deal. Would probably think about it more if it was Cook/Davis/2020 1st for Kamara
12 Team SF IDP
QB - Mahomes, Lawrence, Mac
RB - Etienne, Walker, Rhamondre, Javonte, Akers, CEH
WR - AJB, Waddle, Higgins, Gabe, Toney
TE - Andrews, ISJ
DL - Quinnen, Highsmith, Josh Allen
LB - Lloyd, JOK, Gay, Bush
DB - Winfield, Love, Delpit

14 Team 1QB IDP
QB - Fields, Jimmy G
RB - Henry, Kamara, Swift, Herbert
WR - Adams, Juju, Jakobi, Theilen
TE - Hock, Everett
DL - Garrett, Buckner, Sweat
LB - White, David, Okereke, Jack
DB - Budda, CJGJ, Dugger, Byard

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby M-Dub » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:41 pm

Zacsby wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:32 pm I'd pass on that deal. Would probably think about it more if it was Cook/Davis/2020 1st for Kamara
That’s what I was thinking. Keep Cooks and take out Davis or one of the 1sts on his end.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:17 pm

Easy pass

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby Panthers357 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:33 pm

I'd keep Kamara
Team 1 Fleaflicker 12 Team Half PPR Start 9 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1TE, 1Flex RB, WR,TE 1Def, 1K
QB- A Rich , Stafford, Mac Jones, Minshew
RB- Taylor, Etienne, Ekeler, K Walker, Fournette, k miller, foreman, TDP
WR- ARSB, Adams, Evans, Marquise brown, Burks Gallup, Alec Pierce, Boutte
TE Kittle, Waller, Pitts, t kraft
K- nick folk , moody, Maher
Def- ravens, Giants
24 1st, 2 24 2nds, 3 24 3rds
All 25 picks
26 2nd, 26 3rd and 26 4th

Team 2 Sleeper-Superflex
QB a rich, Kyler, Cousins, Brissett
RB Bijan, Pacheco, jerrick McKinnon, Melvin Gordon, Hubbard, Jaylen Warren
Wr jsn, z flowers, Mike Evans, a cooper, aj brown, skyy moore, Pickens, Christian Watson, John metchie
TE Pitts, Goedert
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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby repkllrs » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:59 pm

Kamara isn’t tough to value. He is a top 6 start up pick. I think you need Kamara more than the pieces coming back. If you are determined to trade him away, I would want DJ Moore instead of CDavis.
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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby Finfansteve » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:21 pm

Stay put this trade will hurt your team
Qb: Hurts, geno Smith
Rb: JT, Gibbs, Montgomery, Roschon, Z. White, Ty Chandler
Wr: AJB, JJ, Chase, waddle, G Wilson
TE: Pitts, Kincaid, Likely, Njoku

2024 1.01, 1.04, 1.05
10 team
9 players kept yearly
Non PPR
Not super flex
Start 1/1/2/1/2 flex
1 point per first down
All tds 6 points

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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:27 am

Cooks >= Cook
Kamara >> Davis + 1.05 + 2020 1st

Pretty terrible offer as is. I'd counter with Kamara + 2nd for Cook + 1.05 + 2020 1st.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Another owner really hunting my kamara

Postby Kmani6 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:42 am

AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL. You're not giving up even Kamara + 2020 2nd for Cook and the 2 1st's. It's gotta be Kamara alone for Cook plus the 2 firsts to begin considering the offer. Like another user mentioned, worst case switch Davis with DJ Moore. I mean what is the 1.05 in this draft, a random WR that you're hoping to hit on? I'm really high on Cook, and I have him in a league. If he gets injured again this year it's over. Literally his fantasy value is zero. The risk for a Zeke like fantasy value is not worth it at all. Kamarra has proven for 2 straight years now that he's amazing. On top of that he's on an elite offense, and is being managed extremely well. I'll take the 1600 and 18 TD seasons for years to come, rather than him being a total workhorse and topping 2k like twice. Kamara easily has that talent though, and it was extremely evident in the first four games of last season with how he managed the whole workload. Either way Kamara is going to be a stud RB for years to come, there's no point taking a risk on Dalvin Cook.
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QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

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10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd


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