Attempting to land CMC

[Golly Dagger]

We have a new owner taking over an orphaned team. The new owner wants to go into a full rebuild and put CMC on the block today.

This owner is brand new to dynasty, he used to play redraft for years, but fell out of love with football and is just now coming back into it, so he's pretty unfamiliar with current players, etc.

I'm trying to make a fair offer for CMC as I don't want this owner's first trade in the league to be a travesty.

Right offer for the rebuild? Should I be offering better, scaling it back, or is it just right?

Team 1 in Sig:

Give: Penny, Watkins, 2020 1st (projected 1.01-1.03 range), Anthony Miller, Goedert, Foreman, and 2.11.

Get: CMC

Thanks in advance.

[LMS123]

I personally like it for both sides (assuming this is team 1 in your Sig.)

[srlarson]

you are taking away all his upside....and getting ride of your trash.....Godert may be ok...foreman maybe....penny, watkins, miller...yuk....they will never play for you.......

you are giving him volume..of what not sure I would want......I would not consider without next years 1st, and 2nd - and maybe a 2021 1st....

[Gator Sens]

Solid deal both ways

[Ravenous]

Lots of pieces... does he even have room to roster them all?

[repkllrs]

The best piece in your offer is an early 2020 1st. If he put Cmc on the block, there is no way your offer is going to be the most enticing.

[Finfansteve]

I own CMC in a couple leagues that ain’t gonna get it done. As a CMC owner you’d have to START with Guice, Diggs and a 2020 first to even get me thinking about it. As a point of reference I just traded CMC and 1.08 for Chubb cooks Julio and Kittle and I still don’t think I got enough back. Don’t offer useless pieces and expect that owner to either accept or respect you going forward. If you want a major piece offer good pieces to get that piece otherwise you eill be written out of that guys future trading plans. Sometimes you can develop a rapport that not only makes your team better but also rebuilds your trading partners team if that makes sense and what you’re offering is gonna cross you off his list if not now then definitely down the road.
Just pay up......

[Golly Dagger]

As a point of reference I just traded CMC and 1.08 for Chubb cooks Julio and Kittle and I still don’t think I got enough back.

I'm stunned anybody would pay that much for any one player and a late first. I understand you thinking my offer for CMC is light if you actually landed that.

Lots of pieces... does he even have room to roster them all?

He does, super weak roster. Only players of real value on the team are CMC and Cooper.

I personally like it for both sides (assuming this is team 1 in your Sig.)

Yes for team 1 in sig.

Thanks for responses all. I think I may hold off for now and see what happens with Tyreek Hill, but we'll see. Going to gauge what other offers he receives before throwing anything out there.

[Favrezilla]

This is a horrible offer.

I can't imagine any scenario where someone would "settle" for this and not even ask other owners if they were interested.

I wouldn't take this package for Sony let alone CMC.

Penny, goedert, Watkins, Miller, 2.11 = bunch of 3-4 2nds and then you're adding a 1st

[Golly Dagger]

Penny, goedert, Watkins, Miller, 2.11 = bunch of 3-4 2nds and then you're adding a 1st

You have Penny, Watkins, and Miller all valued as second round picks?

[M-Dub]

I understand the temptation to try to fleece the newb with a package consisting of a bunch of bench warmers and depth pieces along with a projected early 1st in order to land an elite dynasty asset, but I suspect you already know this would be incredibly lopsided. Put yourself in his shoes, as well as the shoes of the other owners in your league. Even if he accepted this deal, you’re going to engender a lot of ill will. I agree with the suggestion of offering Guice, Diggs and the 1st. You could maybe even ask for a smallish piece back. But don’t make this guy’s first ever dynasty trade something he regrets for years to come.

[Golly Dagger]

I understand the temptation to try to fleece the newb with a package consisting of a bunch of bench warmers and depth pieces along with a projected early 1st in order to land an elite dynasty asset, but I suspect you already know this would be incredibly lopsided.

If there was temptation and I wanted to fleece the man, I would just have made an offer and not started a post asking for advice on how to get the offer right in order to NOT fleece the man.

I think I just value the players I'm offering different than some on the forums. The last thing I want is for the deal to be lopsided, that's why I'm here. If the respected price range of CMC is as some have suggested here, then I am going to take that into consideration and likely decide not to make an offer. If many suggest my offer is too low, that is also going to be taken into consideration and I won't be making a low-ball offer.

Thanks again.

[M-Dub]

I didn’t mean to come off as overly accusatory. I believe that your heart is in the right place. Just trying to get you to take a step back and look at it from the perspective of your leaguemates. How would you feel if someone else in your league landed a top 5-6 startup asset without so much as giving up a starter on their team? It’s not even that the pieces you’re offering are shitty. There are varying degrees of potential upside with all of those guys. But a serious offer for someone like CMC should be centered around one significant piece on your end along with a throw-in or two to sweeten the deal. Just IMO. No offense intended.

[Golly Dagger]

I didn’t mean to come off as overly accusatory. I believe that your heart is in the right place. Just trying to get you to take a step back and look at it from the perspective of your leaguemates. How would you feel if someone else in your league landed a top 5-6 startup asset without so much as giving up a starter on their team? It’s not even that the pieces you’re offering are shitty. There are varying degrees of potential upside with all of those guys. But a serious offer for someone like CMC should be centered around one significant piece on your end along with a throw-in or two to sweeten the deal. Just IMO. No offense intended.

Noted. Thank you for clarifying. Sorry if I came across as defensive, but certainly didn't want to give off the impression I wanted to take advantage of this player. I just want to make sure I get the offer right, or don't make one at all. The points you've stated are ones I am taking into consideration.

[FuzzySignificance]

I think you need to get Guice into this deal. Guice, 2020 1st, Watkins, Miller, Goedert might get it done and it would still make your team stronger. Guice isn't a lot different than Penny from a real/upside perspective but Penny 'feels' worse. Including Guice immediately establishes good faith, with Penny a lot of guys are just like 'oh, he's trying to dump his bust on me'.