Corey Davis Value
Re: Corey Davis Value
Boyd and the 1.06 is an overpay. Boyd, right now, should be close enough to CD’s value for a straight up trade. I’m not a fan of Mariota which devalues my opinion on CD
Re: Corey Davis Value
Boyd's combined stats over his first two seasons:
26 games - 76 receptions - 828 yards - 3 TDs
Davis' combined stats over his first two seasons:
27 games - 99 receptions - 1266 yards - 4 TDs
Davis has the big edge in draft pedigree and ceiling.
Let's not be thinking Boyd's in a much better situation on the Bengals. First off, it's the Bengals!!! Come one now. And Dalton will be 32 this season. Plus, his still Andy Dalton.
26 games - 76 receptions - 828 yards - 3 TDs
Davis' combined stats over his first two seasons:
27 games - 99 receptions - 1266 yards - 4 TDs
Davis has the big edge in draft pedigree and ceiling.
Let's not be thinking Boyd's in a much better situation on the Bengals. First off, it's the Bengals!!! Come one now. And Dalton will be 32 this season. Plus, his still Andy Dalton.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
I know right and Boyd did what he did last year as Cinns #2 WR with a back up QB half the year.Farley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:45 am Boyd's combined stats over his first two seasons:
26 games - 76 receptions - 828 yards - 3 TDs
Davis' combined stats over his first two seasons:
27 games - 99 receptions - 1266 yards - 4 TDs
Davis has the big edge in draft pedigree and ceiling.
Let's not be thinking Boyd's in a much better situation on the Bengals. First off, it's the Bengals!!! Come one now. And Dalton will be 32 this season. Plus, his still Andy Dalton.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
Keep cherry-picking, Jay Ajayi.AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:01 amI know right and Boyd did what he did last year as Cinns #2 WR with a back up QB half the year.Farley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:45 am Boyd's combined stats over his first two seasons:
26 games - 76 receptions - 828 yards - 3 TDs
Davis' combined stats over his first two seasons:
27 games - 99 receptions - 1266 yards - 4 TDs
Davis has the big edge in draft pedigree and ceiling.
Let's not be thinking Boyd's in a much better situation on the Bengals. First off, it's the Bengals!!! Come one now. And Dalton will be 32 this season. Plus, his still Andy Dalton.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
I would not pay 1.06 AND Boyd for Davis.
I haven’t given up on Davis, but I’d much rather have the 6th rookie AND a fairly “safe” WR2/3 than a guy who’s been unstartable for his first 2 years, as well as QB, offensive scheme, & injury concerns.
I haven’t given up on Davis, but I’d much rather have the 6th rookie AND a fairly “safe” WR2/3 than a guy who’s been unstartable for his first 2 years, as well as QB, offensive scheme, & injury concerns.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
the 1.06 would be about right..... I too would take boyd over davis....
Let someone else take the crap shoot on this class of WR's...not sold on any of them....
Let someone else take the crap shoot on this class of WR's...not sold on any of them....
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Re: Corey Davis Value
This is a really good argument for Cory Davis. He is just in a bad situation with a stagnant offense and a below average QB. And then Derrick Henry has a couple big games and now there is talk of them running the ball 25 times a game. Davis is the guy I love to acquire before he hits free agency... and pray he goes to a good situation.cvbuc wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:13 pmNo. These takes are just off. Sorry... but no.The Showstopper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:42 pm Corey Davis is quickly turning into Devante Parker....
Corey Davis
Year 1: 34 catches 375 yds 0 tds - 11yds a catch
Year 2: 65 catches 891 yds 4 tds - 13,7 yds a catch
That's the EXACT type of improvement you want to see from year 1 to year 2. He's entering his age 24 / year 3 breakout and his statistical comps over the first two years compare favorably to a lot of top receivers. If Corey takes just a modest step he's close to 75 catches and over 1000yds - even in "that" offense
D. Parker has never sniffed that kind of production. Clumping Davis with him is just lazy.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
As a Davis owner I'd take Boyd and the 1.06 if offered. However, I'd prefer Davis to either the 1.06 or Boyd alone. It's hard for me to put an exact price on Davis though.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
Boyd and the 1.06 easily.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
Plus Boyd only started 3 games his first 2 years , Davis started 25Farley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:43 amKeep cherry-picking, Jay Ajayi.AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:01 amI know right and Boyd did what he did last year as Cinns #2 WR with a back up QB half the year.Farley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:45 am Boyd's combined stats over his first two seasons:
26 games - 76 receptions - 828 yards - 3 TDs
Davis' combined stats over his first two seasons:
27 games - 99 receptions - 1266 yards - 4 TDs
Davis has the big edge in draft pedigree and ceiling.
Let's not be thinking Boyd's in a much better situation on the Bengals. First off, it's the Bengals!!! Come one now. And Dalton will be 32 this season. Plus, his still Andy Dalton.
Cherry picking what ? , Your the one that said the Bengals aren't much better of a situation yet Boyd outplayed Davis as a WR2 while he was the WR1 on Tenn.
Imagine the numbers Boyd would have put up as a WR 1 in Pitt damn , I mean AJG and Boyd did get the best WR duel over AB and Juju last year , And Boyd was scoring the same amount of PPG as Juju while Dalton was healthy
Whats Ajayi have to do with Boyd and Davis ?
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Re: Corey Davis Value
The impatience for WR development is crazy by some people....Was Davante Adams a complete bust or wait did he breakout in year 3? Was Boyd a bust or wait did he breakout in year 3? To equate him to Davante Parker who was always hurt, criticized by coaches for work ethic and show no flashes of actual skill is an insult.
I agree his situation is very bleak and he's likely going to continue to disappoint any owners hoping for a top 10 breakout, however if his target share remains the same I would be very surprised if he isn't a WR2 this coming season.
If you a safer lower ceiling player then go Boyd. He's good but his offense is also a tad questionable and he has AJG to deal with and isn't the talent Davis is. If you want the more skilled player with the chance his situation improves long term go Davis.
I agree his situation is very bleak and he's likely going to continue to disappoint any owners hoping for a top 10 breakout, however if his target share remains the same I would be very surprised if he isn't a WR2 this coming season.
If you a safer lower ceiling player then go Boyd. He's good but his offense is also a tad questionable and he has AJG to deal with and isn't the talent Davis is. If you want the more skilled player with the chance his situation improves long term go Davis.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
I think this says it best. Davis still has upside, but his first two seasons were very disappointing, and there's just no reason to have faith in Mariota and TEN given their track record. I'd say that Boyd >= 1.06 >= Davis and that I value all three pieces similarly, but Boyd + 1.06 definitely >>> Davis.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:21 am I would not pay 1.06 AND Boyd for Davis.
I haven’t given up on Davis, but I’d much rather have the 6th rookie AND a fairly “safe” WR2/3 than a guy who’s been unstartable for his first 2 years, as well as QB, offensive scheme, & injury concerns.
Ajayi has nothing to do with Boyd and Davis. I believe Farley was referencing your tendency to overvalue players that you've owned in the past. IIRC, you were touting Ajayi to be worth an early 1st and projected RB1 numbers for him in the past.AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:03 amWhats Ajayi have to do with Boyd and Davis ?Farley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:43 amKeep cherry-picking, Jay Ajayi.AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:01 am I know right and Boyd did what he did last year as Cinns #2 WR with a back up QB half the year.
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Re: Corey Davis Value
It's not my fault he got hurt I didn't go trip him , It's like saying LF is worth nothing because he got hurt last year and did nothing or any guy that got hurt last year.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:06 amI think this says it best. Davis still has upside, but his first two seasons were very disappointing, and there's just no reason to have faith in Mariota and TEN given their track record. I'd say that Boyd >= 1.06 >= Davis and that I value all three pieces similarly, but Boyd + 1.06 definitely >>> Davis.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:21 am I would not pay 1.06 AND Boyd for Davis.
I haven’t given up on Davis, but I’d much rather have the 6th rookie AND a fairly “safe” WR2/3 than a guy who’s been unstartable for his first 2 years, as well as QB, offensive scheme, & injury concerns.
Ajayi has nothing to do with Boyd and Davis. I believe Farley was referencing your tendency to overvalue players that you've owned in the past. IIRC, you were touting Ajayi to be worth an early 1st and projected RB1 numbers for him in the past.
I'm not overvaluing Boyd because I have him I just traded Davis for Boyd even up a couple weeks ago , And it's not just me I can get Davis back right now for Boyd but I'm not , I tried to trade Davis all offseason and no one in the league would give me a 2020 1st for him.
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