Damien Williams vs David Johnson

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Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby gman6199 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:04 am

Been offered Williams and ARob for DJ and Marquis Lee. What is the opinion of Damien Williams going forward? The million dollar question is is he the #1 RB going forward in KC?

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:14 am

Robinson is a huge upgrade over Lee. If you think Williams is the starter in KC this is a pretty solid trade. AZ could rebound this year or it could be another couple years of Johnson not putting up a ton of points.

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby BucFanJKE » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:18 am

Personally I would keep DJ here. We know that he will be a starter, get almost every RB touch and produce. If you want the other side, it will probably be there when the season starts and you know if they draft anyone else and see how they plan to split touches. I'm also not really an Arob believer. Outside of one good season he hasn't really done anything.

I would just want more sure things if moving DJ.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
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Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby Adam_172 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:21 am

Eww I don't like this trade one bit.

DJ>>>Williams (I see Williams being on a short leash in KC)

ARob>>Lee but this isn't enough to lose the stud in DJ.
TEAM 1
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QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.


TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)

QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby Goddard » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:23 am

I'd rather have DJ.

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby TroyH » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:23 am

I would hold DJ here. I know Reid prefers a #1 back but I wouldn't be surprised if he takes the RBBC approach with what he has on the roster.

It sounds like the other owner is trying to sell high on Williams while he still can in my opinion.
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QB: Love, Watson, Cousins
RB: JT, Kyren, BRob, Roschon, Miles
WR: AJB, Wilson, Waddle, Puka, Higgins, Hopkins, Jeudy, Jameson Williams
TE: Okonkwo, Thomas
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:24 am

Seems pretty close. I'd counter with Johnson + Lee for Robinson + Williams + 2nd.
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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby bigbuck22 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:45 am

I don't like this deal. It seems like you should be getting a better and more sure thing for DJ. Shop him around. I would expect you'll find a better offer. If not, I would hold until someone is willing to do better.

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:51 am

Adam_172 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:21 am Eww I don't like this trade one bit.

DJ>>>Williams (I see Williams being on a short leash in KC)

ARob>>Lee but this isn't enough to lose the stud in DJ.
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TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby abloom » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:54 am

I'd rather DJ, and it will be interesting to see what lee does with Foles in Jax
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
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Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:59 am

this is freaking terrible, anyone posting anything other than walk the F away should be ashamed.
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1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby Nimrod » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:27 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:59 am this is freaking terrible, anyone posting anything other than walk the F away should be ashamed.
This. DJ is proven. ARob and D Williams are not. DJ has a down year in the worse offense and still was RB9 in PPR. That says something about the room to grow in the Kingbury offense
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RB: CEH, Hines, Cohen, Evans, Perine,
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TE: Herndon, Njoku, Doyle

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby collbey » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:35 am

Hold DJ. Don't care enough about either ARob or Lee, so this RB vs RB. Williams has the situation going for him now but that is it. DJ is the better talent, more proven, and is locked in as the guy. Situation's change.

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby Titans95 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:57 am

I'm baffled some even think this is "close" we see this EVERY season and every season people fall into the snakepit of buying into a chump that ends up unstartable within a year. Ty Montgomery, Jay Ajayi, Kenyan Drake, Alex Collins, Rex Burkhead, Spencer Ware all guys that took 20 seconds to think of that were all hyped up and failed miserably. Damien Williams was a chump before the chiefs for 4 YEARS! He's not even the highest paid RB on his team anymore. He's a backup that did an admirable job filling in for Hunt but just like Ware was an admirable backup filling in for an injured JC the odds are stacked against him to be worth more than a turd sandwich come the end of 2019 season. DJ is a stud muffin who was an RB1 even on the worst coached team in the league and has one of the highest touch percentages behind only Zeke and is getting paid big boi money.

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Re: Damien Williams vs David Johnson

Postby cvbuc » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:00 pm

I'm not a huge DJ guy going forward - but you should absolutely get more than this.
Losing DJ for a RB we can't guarantee will be the starter and a WR now 3 seasons removed from his one great year is not the wisest decision one could make.
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