Trading Zeke

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Trading Zeke

Postby Prison_Mike » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:09 pm

Discussing a Zeke trade with 2 different owners

Trade 1:
Give: Zeke + C.Kirk + Yeldon + 2.04
Get: DJ + Watkins + Drake + 1.10 + 2020 1st

Trade 2:
Give: Zeke + Conley + 3.06 + 2020 3rd
Get: Conner + Stills + 1.02 + 2020 1st

Thoughts on these?
What needs added to which side?
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Golly Dagger » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:39 pm

Dearest Prison Mike,

It is of utmost importance that I first inform you how much I dearly admire your earnest tales of trials and tribulations. In particular, your kidnapping of our own President's son.

Now, if I were to advise you on which business transaction is more suitable to your platoon, I would lean towards the second offer, however, I do not dismiss either. I am most curious where one may project those 2020 firsts, as one may find that information most pertinent.

Sincerely,

Captain Andrew Luck

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2nd season: 7-6 (1st rd exit)
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4th season: 11-2 (League Champ)
5th season: 9-4 (1st rd exit)

.5 PPR, 6pt TD, 4pt TD Pass, 25 roster, 14 team (6 Playoffs), 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1LB, 1DL, 1DB, 1 Flex IDP:

QB: Jackson, Darnold
RB: Mixon, Gurley, Guice
WR: Cooper, Golladay, Metcalf, Campbell, Boykin, Isabella, Ross, Dulin
TE: Kittle, I. Thomas
DL: J. Bosa
LB: Darius Leonard, Barrett, Esche
DB: Collins

Draft capital: 1.02, 1.06, 4.12, 5.04, 6.04, 7.04, 7.09

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Prison_Mike » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:57 pm

Capt. Andrew Luck wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:39 pm Dearest Prison Mike,

It is of utmost importance that I first inform you how much I dearly admire your earnest tales of trials and tribulations. In particular, your kidnapping of our own President's son.

Now, if I were to advise you on which business transaction is more suitable to your platoon, I would lean towards the second offer, however, I do not dismiss either. I am most curious where one may project those 2020 firsts, as one may find that information most pertinent.

Sincerely,

Captain Andrew Luck

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And I neva got caught neither

Most teams in the league are on fairly equal ground since startup draft was recent so tough to project standings

But if I had to guess:
I would expect the 2020 1st from either trade to be mid/late (Team from trade 1 in particular would have Watson, Nuk, Zeke, Kelce)

I too expect to compete this year with Saquon, Zeke, & OBJ as my big 3 but my depth is somewhat concerning (hence the reason for shopping Zeke)
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby srlarson » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:13 pm

I would not trade zeke for either of those.....
Empire 10 team 30man rosters QB, 2rb, 3Wr, TE, 2F, K (.5ppr RB's, ppr WR/TE)
redraft coming


Empire 12 team SF 30man rosters - QB, 2rb, 2wr, te, sf, Rb/Wr/Te flex, 2Rb/Wr Flex
(rb .5ppr, wr 1ppr, TE 1.5ppr) -
QB - Prescott, Cousins, M Jones, C. Rush
RB - JT, Chubb, J Cook, Hunt, Penny, Patterson, Foreman, Davis-Price, Henderson, Patterson
WR - Diggs, M Thomas, Gallup, K Phillips, Goodwin, Hollins, C Moore, raymond, reynolds, D robinson, J Watson
TE - Ertz, Brate, McBride, Akins, Gray
1.05,2.05,3.05,4.05

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Prison_Mike » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:16 pm

srlarson wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:13 pm I would not trade zeke for either of those.....
Seems to be the consensus.

How far off are they?
(Conner owner also has the 1.01 FWIW)
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:16 pm

I like the 2nd deal better if you are sure that you want to deal Zeke.

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Prison_Mike » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:21 pm

Cowboysfan33 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:16 pm I like the 2nd deal better if you are sure that you want to deal Zeke.
Thanks, tbh I’m not 100% sure

I’d like to sell him to patch up some holes in my roster, but can’t seem to properly gauge his value.

Anytime I post a trade poll involving Zeke, even if I feel like it’d be a significant overpay - the Zeke side wins lol. Which definitely makes me second guess selling him at all
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby mike40 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:38 pm

I'd hold Zeke. If you were going to accept one if the offers I would do the second. I think it's fair value but Conner is still a ? For me without AB and an aging Ben they may lean on him but who knows how that offense looks this year and beyond. If you wind up using the 1 02 , Conner may not be producing when that pick starts to. I'd be interested to see what kind of WRs too could get from that second team then try to trade the 1.02 plus for a guy like DJ. Maybe his owner is down on him.... I have DJ and a package starting with the 1.02 this year would get me to the table
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QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/K/DEF

QB- Wilson (1) Tanehill (1) Jimmy G (3)
RB - Gibson (6) Mixon (2) Ekeler (1) J White (1)
WR -Tyreek(1), Ridley (3), K Allen (4), Fuller (2), Lazard (3)
TE - Ertz (4) Goedert(4), Irv Smith Jr(6)

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Golly Dagger » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:11 pm

I like the second offer, but I'm also a believer in Conner, and at the 1.02 spot - I do like that pick in this class.

That being said, if you're in need of depth primarily, and you're contending, I might pass and sell Zeke for players who are more assured to help you win now. If at all possible, trying to move Zeke for a guy like Mixon + WR help. The depth you need right now is at the WR position, and while this WR class is deep, we all know it's pretty unlikely a rookie WR is going to help you a lot.

As previous post wondered, I'd also check in on what WRs could be had with Conner.
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1st season: 7-7 (Missed playoffs)
2nd season: 7-6 (1st rd exit)
3rd season: 6-7 (Missed playoffs)
4th season: 11-2 (League Champ)
5th season: 9-4 (1st rd exit)

.5 PPR, 6pt TD, 4pt TD Pass, 25 roster, 14 team (6 Playoffs), 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1LB, 1DL, 1DB, 1 Flex IDP:

QB: Jackson, Darnold
RB: Mixon, Gurley, Guice
WR: Cooper, Golladay, Metcalf, Campbell, Boykin, Isabella, Ross, Dulin
TE: Kittle, I. Thomas
DL: J. Bosa
LB: Darius Leonard, Barrett, Esche
DB: Collins

Draft capital: 1.02, 1.06, 4.12, 5.04, 6.04, 7.04, 7.09

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:42 pm

I would definitely do the 2nd offer. 1.02 and a 2020 first on top of Conner? You give away a couple of thirds? I'd do that, but I am a Conner believer. First offer sucks.
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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Adam_172 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:29 am

I wouldn't take either but offer 2 is close.
TEAM 1
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)

QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.


TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)

QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.

Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Prison_Mike » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:04 am

He turned down 2 1sts on top of Conner but still interested

What about:

Conner + Kittle + 1.01
for
Zeke + Njoku
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby Adam_172 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:20 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:04 am He turned down 2 1sts on top of Conner but still interested

What about:

Conner + Kittle + 1.01
for
Zeke + Njoku
Zeke >= Connor + Kittle
Njoku < 1.01

I'd lean Zeke side (slightly) on this one. But in a vaccum this is a pretty fair offer.
TEAM 1
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)

QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.


TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)

QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.

Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby EAGLES » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:21 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:09 pm Discussing a Zeke trade with 2 different owners

Trade 1:
Give: Zeke + C.Kirk + Yeldon + 2.04
Get: DJ + Watkins + Drake + 1.10 + 2020 1st

Trade 2:
Give: Zeke + Conley + 3.06 + 2020 3rd
Get: Conner + Stills + 1.02 + 2020 1st

Thoughts on these?
What needs added to which side?
I like this move for your team. With OBJ now with the Browns, Njoku could very easily take a hit. Kittle is an upgrade there. You still get an RB1 and now you have the 1.01 to help your WR depth

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Re: Trading Zeke

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:32 am

i like all these deals lol. the conner kittle 1.01 is such a haul id be surprised if he was down to do that one
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp


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