Fair offer for Schuster?

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Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby jojo5151 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:12 pm

For team 1 in sig.
What's a fair offer for Schuster? I'd be trying to acquire him.
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Team 1
1 QB 12 team PPR
QB - T. Law, Carr, Browning, Stidham
RB- Chubb, Gibbs, Gibson, K. Williams, D Henderson, Dowdle
WR/TE- A. St. Brown, Higgins, K. Allen, E. Moore, B .Cooks, N. Brown, Tillman, McBride, Ferguson
Defense - Ravens, Raiders, Rams
Team 2
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QB - L. Jackson
RB - Pierce, Akers, Mostert, K. Williams
WR - J.Jefferson, Olave, Njigba,Dotson, E.Moore
TE - Ferguson
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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby BucFanJKE » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:35 pm

Hate to say it. And no offense, but you dont have the pieces to get Juju without blowing up the team unless you move Kamara or MT for him. He is right up there with them in value.

The juju owner should need to add for either of those. But it wouldnt be adding much.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
1.07, 3.04, 4.07

Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Likely
2024: 2 1st (one top 2), 3rd, 4th

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:39 pm

JuJu is probably not obtainable right now. I know the owner in my one league is already parading him as WR1

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:48 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:39 pm JuJu is probably not obtainable right now. I know the owner in my one league is already parading him as WR1
Agreed, JuJu would be extremely difficult to get

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:51 pm

Try James Connor. I don't see JuJu's numbers going much next year at all.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby BucFanJKE » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:57 pm

Kmani6 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:51 pm Try James Connor. I don't see JuJu's numbers going much next year at all.
As a juju owner myself, this is an easy instant decline with no reply.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
1.07, 3.04, 4.07

Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Likely
2024: 2 1st (one top 2), 3rd, 4th

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:59 pm

Tbh I wouldn't try to acquire him now. You'd be buying at his all time peak value. The reason I don't think his production will go up that much is that I actually think he'll drop yardage and increase TDs. Defenses will be able to realistically only game plan for him as opposed to AB as well. He'll also be facing the top corners every single game. The biggest point I always make and people always seem to not understand is that JuJu received around 170 targets last year. That's essentially tied at number 1 for targets in the NFL. Guys like Mike Evans and MT only had ~140/145. His targets won't realistically go up much if at all next year. Throwing the ball an average of 11 times a game to a single receiver is already a ton! The steelers are definitely going to draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd like they do often, and I wouldn't be surprised if that guy/James Washington step in to make up a good chunk of AB's 1200 yards. Not to mention, Vance should really step up next year and increase in yardage.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:10 pm

BucFanJKE wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:57 pm
Kmani6 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:51 pm Try James Connor. I don't see JuJu's numbers going much next year at all.
As a juju owner myself, this is an easy instant decline with no reply.
I don't think it warrants a no reply at all. James Connor had 15 less Fantasy points in 3 less games played... Anyone the steelers plugs in at RB automatically beasts. JuJu and Connor are like a worse pair of AB and Bell IMO. While JuJu is sure to have a longer career than Connor, I'd assume Connor should produce steadily for the next 5 years, barring any injuries. I could see him having to give up a future first at most in addition to Connor for JuJu. Also, considering you said JuJu is in the same category as Kamara it seems as if you are overvaluing him massively. Kamara just came off a 18 TD season with Ingram (who's leaving) there bud... The over under on Kamarras TDs has to be like 20 next year. Don't forget what Kamara did the first 4 games of the season when he had the whole workload... He looked easily like the best dynasty asset and with Gurley's knee problems, the awful giants offense, and the possible cam-less panthers offense next year Kamara has a real shot to finish number 1.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby ESKAY » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:19 pm

Kmani6 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:10 pm
BucFanJKE wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:57 pm
Kmani6 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:51 pm Try James Connor. I don't see JuJu's numbers going much next year at all.
As a juju owner myself, this is an easy instant decline with no reply.
I don't think it warrants a no reply at all. James Connor had 15 less Fantasy points in 3 less games played... Anyone the steelers plugs in at RB automatically beasts. JuJu and Connor are like a worse pair of AB and Bell IMO. While JuJu is sure to have a longer career than Connor, I'd assume Connor should produce steadily for the next 5 years, barring any injuries. I could see him having to give up a future first at most in addition to Connor for JuJu. Also, considering you said JuJu is in the same category as Kamara it seems as if you are overvaluing him massively. Kamara just came off a 18 TD season with Ingram (who's leaving) there bud... The over under on Kamarras TDs has to be like 20 next year. Don't forget what Kamara did the first 4 games of the season when he had the whole workload... He looked easily like the best dynasty asset and with Gurley's knee problems, the awful giants offense, and the possible cam-less panthers offense next year Kamara has a real shot to finish number 1.
This is a good argument and is duly noted... but I agree with Bucs fan with the no response comment.

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby crip7300 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:20 pm

I think Connor and Godwin would be a good start. If you are really trying to keep Conner, you could also try Thielen, Godwin and Njoku and see if that gets you close.
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz

Team 2
12 team SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat

Team 5
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SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift

WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant


Team 6
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PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
TE Pitts Kittle

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby Mjvb5 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:26 pm

Conner+Thielen is probaby what it'll take without moving the saint duo

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby Smoking Guns » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:30 pm

A guy in my league that owns JuJu texted me today asking my opinion on the AB deal to the Raiders and said that with out a doubt move him into the top 5 for WR rankings- so that is where the owners are right now

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby Mjvb5 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:36 pm

My current WR tiers would be in no order in the tiers
OBJ
Hopkins
Adams
MT
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Hill
Juju
Evans
So I'd put him anywhere from 5-7 WR overall with one more year of good production moving him into tier 1 like Thomas and Adams just did

Note: There is a massive drop after tier 2 IMO at WR8, guys like diggs, KA, julio, AB, Coop, and Cooks. Don't get me wrong I like them but i don't want any of them to be my WR1 in 12 team

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby grandmabetty » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:47 pm

To the poster who said he will be facing the #1 CB every game not all defenses have their best corner shadow the best reciever. Also consider juju plays in the slot a lot. That being said, I am actually a little worried about jujus production this year. I own him and I love him but as others have mentioned he was a target monster last year. I dont see that going up much and he should see additional attention from defenses. That being said I think he is a lock to finish as a top 10 WR and it shouldn't take long for pitt to bring in complementary WR pieces thus taking more of the pressure off juju. Incidentally I own McDonald too and I'm excited about him taking a jump in value this year

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Re: Fair offer for Schuster?

Postby chalorpas » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:56 pm

grandmabetty wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:47 pm To the poster who said he will be facing the #1 CB every game not all defenses have their best corner shadow the best reciever. Also consider juju plays in the slot a lot. That being said, I am actually a little worried about jujus production this year. I own him and I love him but as others have mentioned he was a target monster last year. I dont see that going up much and he should see additional attention from defenses. That being said I think he is a lock to finish as a top 10 WR and it shouldn't take long for pitt to bring in complementary WR pieces thus taking more of the pressure off juju. Incidentally I own McDonald too and I'm excited about him taking a jump in value this year
I actually think his targets will go up this year. Probably 180-200 range. He was at 166 last year and obviously with Antonio leaving that’s another 160 to be spread out. Should be similar output as 2015 Hopkins (190+ targets) except with a better qb.


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