Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

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Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Krissi24 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:03 pm

12 Team 0,5 PPR

Is it to much for Kerryon Johnson. I really like him being a Top 10 RB.
Should I Go ahead and accept and pay up 1.03 and 1.11??

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby MattDeezy » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:11 pm

It depends on your team and format but there are scenarios in which I’d pay this.
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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Golly Dagger » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:17 pm

Yes, give me Kerryon here all day.
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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:51 pm

I'd pay that all day

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby colonnaj94 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:24 pm

I would probably keep Kerryon, but it's a fair deal. Haven't heard great things about this draft class..
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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:40 pm

No way would I offer 1.03 for Kerryon.

Jacobs > Kerryon
If KC takes a RB > Kerryon
Metcalf > Kerryon
Harry > Kerryon
Harmon (depending on landing spot) > Kerryon.

Best case I’d give 1.05 for him but probably would only give something later.

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Johnny Canuck » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:41 pm

Kerryon would easily be my 1.01 in this draft, and I wouldn’t trade my share for less than 1.01 plus. This is a great deal for KJ.

Anyone who says otherwise needs to watch some more of KJs tape...or they just got the fever early.

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Golly Dagger » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:57 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:40 pm No way would I offer 1.03 for Kerryon.

Jacobs > Kerryon
If KC takes a RB > Kerryon
Metcalf > Kerryon
Harry > Kerryon
Harmon (depending on landing spot) > Kerryon.

Best case I’d give 1.05 for him but probably would only give something later.
You make some good points, but nothing is guaranteed. I'm not convinced the Chiefs will do anything of real significance to their backfield. They have so many holes on the defensive side of the field and Williams was impressive. I won't be surprised if they don't address the running back position. That being said, I won't be surprised if they do either. If they did add a stud back though, I wouldn't count on them lasting to the 1.03.

I do like Josh Jacobs, but the NFL draft can be unpredictable, and he may go 1.01 in the rookie draft anyway. I'm an advocate for taking stud rookie backs in great positions, as I think many are, because they can build immediate value and rapidly. Rookie WRs often tend not to be able to do that, and you can get them a year later for pretty cheap if they struggled their rookie year, as most of them do.

This is why I like Kerryon over the 1.03. I don't like the crop of backs after Josh Jacobs, and I'm not convinced any of them will land a starting job besides Josh Jacobs. Kerryon to me is worth more than the 1.03, and the 1.11 in a weak rookie class being added to the deal would not hold me back. Kerryon was an absolute stud behind a pretty bad offensive line. My only concern about him is his health.
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4th season: 11-2 (League Champ)
5th season: 9-4 (1st rd exit)

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:08 pm

Skøl wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:57 pm
Forza_Azzurri wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:40 pm No way would I offer 1.03 for Kerryon.

Jacobs > Kerryon
If KC takes a RB > Kerryon
Metcalf > Kerryon
Harry > Kerryon
Harmon (depending on landing spot) > Kerryon.

Best case I’d give 1.05 for him but probably would only give something later
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You make some good points, but nothing is guaranteed. I'm not convinced the Chiefs will do anything of real significance to their backfield. They have so many holes on the defensive side of the field and Williams was impressive. I won't be surprised if they don't address the running back position. That being said, I won't be surprised if they do either. If they did add a stud back though, I wouldn't count on them lasting to the 1.03.

I do like Josh Jacobs, but the NFL draft can be unpredictable, and he may go 1.01 in the rookie draft anyway. I'm an advocate for taking stud rookie backs in great positions, as I think many are, because they can build immediate value and rapidly. Rookie WRs often tend not to be able to do that, and you can get them a year later for pretty cheap if they struggled their rookie year, as most of them do.

This is why I like Kerryon over the 1.03. I don't like the crop of backs after Josh Jacobs, and I'm not convinced any of them will land a starting job besides Josh Jacobs. Kerryon to me is worth more than the 1.03, and the 1.11 in a weak rookie class being added to the deal would not hold me back. Kerryon was an absolute stud behind a pretty bad offensive line. My only concern about him is his health.
@Forza_Azzurri: Yeah Metcalf is a boom or bust for me. I just have a feeling he might be that workout warrior that just can't stay healthy. He's not polished at all. He has not played much football either.

Also, if KC takes a RB>Kerryon? No. Not if they take one in the 5th round. Andy Reid's offense is good, but he's not a god, and unless they spend significant draft capital on that back, he can just be supplanted by the next guy they throw in there.

I don't think Jacobs has established himself over Kerryon. Let's see how he tests, where he's drafted, and to who. Kerryon was SEC player of the year, with a ton of production, and then walked into the NFL and established himself as a 3 down back, so pump the brakes on Jacobs over him right now IMO, and I have the 1.01 in a league.

If you are offering 1.05 at best or later for KJ, you might as well not offer at all, you won't get him for that, and would probably get a snarky response, too. It's all well and good to be down on him more than others, but he's established a value in Dynasty well beyond your rating of him.

@ responder. The are comments more than points. None of these have much, if any reasoning behind them.
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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby frodo2003 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:53 pm

FWIW--I have KJ in 3 leagues and I would not part with him for the picks!!
If you can get him, I would for sure pull the trigger.

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:44 am

I would not move Kerryon, so if you could get him for that price, I would jump all over it!

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:45 am

Forza_Azzurri wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:40 pm No way would I offer 1.03 for Kerryon.

Jacobs > Kerryon
If KC takes a RB > Kerryon
Metcalf > Kerryon
Harry > Kerryon
Harmon (depending on landing spot) > Kerryon.

Best case I’d give 1.05 for him but probably would only give something later.
I guess I don't understand this at all. None of these guys have ever set foot on an NFL field...

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:16 am

Gator Sens wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:45 am
Forza_Azzurri wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:40 pm No way would I offer 1.03 for Kerryon.

Jacobs > Kerryon
If KC takes a RB > Kerryon
Metcalf > Kerryon
Harry > Kerryon
Harmon (depending on landing spot) > Kerryon.

Best case I’d give 1.05 for him but probably would only give something later.
I guess I don't understand this at all. None of these guys have ever set foot on an NFL field...
For real...

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby Titans95 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:25 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:16 am
Gator Sens wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:45 am
Forza_Azzurri wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:40 pm No way would I offer 1.03 for Kerryon.

Jacobs > Kerryon
If KC takes a RB > Kerryon
Metcalf > Kerryon
Harry > Kerryon
Harmon (depending on landing spot) > Kerryon.

Best case I’d give 1.05 for him but probably would only give something later.
I guess I don't understand this at all. None of these guys have ever set foot on an NFL field...
For real...
Agreed. The only real rookie I could understand ranking above KJ at this point is Jacobs and that is betting on him going to a dream spot like the Chiefs or Eagles. Other than that KJ has a very solid chance of becoming a top 10 RB in year 2 at the age of 22.

Metcalf is a physical freak that is for sure but it took all of 10 minutes to watch all of his tape and you could replay the first minute and think it's the same thing. All he does is go straight. That won't win in the NFL. I'm not saying he's not a great prospect because he is from an athletic standpoint he feels like a Julio Jones type but he is not refined in any way. Could easily end up as Kevin White.

there are some really solid Wr's coming into the league but based on the last few years of drafts I have zero faith in predicting which Wr's are going to flourish and which will bust. I know Kerryon is going to be on a solid run first team with great passing chops and extremely good vision and proved it with an amazing rookie campaign on a per touch basis. Give me that all day

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Re: Kerryon for 1.03 and 1.11

Postby PercyR1 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:24 pm

Ill take the picks, but if you actually believe KJ can be top 12 Rb then i KJ side.

For someone that owns 1.1 in a league - no way in hell im trading 1.1 for KJ


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