This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

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This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby jp4703 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:06 am

So this is the league in my sig. I’ve been the second best team in the league and the strongest team just made this blockbuster trade last night.

The trade is attached the picks on team two are all late. Team 1 is the team who was already the strongest team in the league.

***1.01 isn’t 1.01 yet, we do a lottery for bottom 4 teams and that pick has the best odds***

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16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby vixen » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:13 am

i don't understand...
are you telling me that someone traded
Antonio, Rodgers, Freeman, Flacco, Earl Thomas, 1.15, 2.15 and 2020 2nd for
Rivers, Watkins, Hilton, Penny, Hicks, 1.01, 2020 1st and 2020 2nd

pick 3.10 is listed twice.
the trade doesn't seem that bad, but i don't think i understand

can you clarify for me...
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:16 am

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby jp4703 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:19 am

Remove one of the 3.10 and yes that’s the full trade just how the guy broke it down to explain it to us.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby jp4703 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:24 am

vixen wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:13 am i don't understand...
are you telling me that someone traded
Antonio, Rodgers, Freeman, Flacco, Earl Thomas, 1.15, 2.15 and 2020 2nd for
Rivers, Watkins, Hilton, Penny, Hicks, 1.01, 2020 1st and 2020 2nd

pick 3.10 is listed twice.
the trade doesn't seem that bad, but i don't think i understand

can you clarify for me...
The future first and second are most likely 1.16 and 2.16. The future second on AB side will be top 10
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby Nightmares » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:30 am

This is definitely not a trade that I would get worked up over. If AB ends up in a good offense that side wins for a year or two.

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby vixen » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:36 am

jp4703 wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:24 am
vixen wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:13 am i don't understand...
are you telling me that someone traded
Antonio, Rodgers, Freeman, Flacco, Earl Thomas, 1.15, 2.15 and 2020 2nd for
Rivers, Watkins, Hilton, Penny, Hicks, 1.01, 2020 1st and 2020 2nd

pick 3.10 is listed twice.
the trade doesn't seem that bad, but i don't think i understand

can you clarify for me...
The future first and second are most likely 1.16 and 2.16. The future second on AB side will be top 10
in one of my leagues, the guy that finished as the 2017 champion finished last in 2018...it can happen...
remind me, what side did the champ get? AB side i assume
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby jp4703 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:42 am

vixen wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:36 am
jp4703 wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:24 am
vixen wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:13 am i don't understand...
are you telling me that someone traded
Antonio, Rodgers, Freeman, Flacco, Earl Thomas, 1.15, 2.15 and 2020 2nd for
Rivers, Watkins, Hilton, Penny, Hicks, 1.01, 2020 1st and 2020 2nd

pick 3.10 is listed twice.
the trade doesn't seem that bad, but i don't think i understand

can you clarify for me...
The future first and second are most likely 1.16 and 2.16. The future second on AB side will be top 10
in one of my leagues, the guy that finished as the 2017 champion finished last in 2018...it can happen...
remind me, what side did the champ get? AB side i assume
He finished 2nd last year and first the year before. Has been the highest scoring for the last 2 years. He got the AB side making his offensive starting lineup:

Rodgers, gurley, mixon, DFreeman/hunt/Ajones/CThomson, AB, D. Adams, Cooper, OJ Howard. You don’t wanna even hear about the backups or defense.

Remember this a 16 team league with deep starting lineups. He owns 6 starting rbs on his team and we HAVE TO start at least 2 rbs.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Postby abloom » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:08 pm

Looks like a good trade
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:10 pm

Little light for AB and those guys but definitely not a dumb trade
Hilton+1.1=AB+1.15
Rivers+Watkins for Rodgers
First and penny for freeman If Devonta
Rest is throw ins

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:43 pm

Looks okay to me. It comes down to Hilton + 1.01 + future 1st for Brown, which is definitely an overpay based on his declining value in the eyes of most owners, but it's not egregious. I still value Brown as a top-7 dynasty WR.
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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby moishetreats » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:44 pm

Sounds more like sour grapes / envy than anything else. Could the other guy have perhaps / probably gotten more by piece-mealing the players and picks? Yup. Is this a crazy lop-sided trade? Nope.

That being said, I feel ya': I HATE when the team(s) above/around me get significantly better by making a trade that I would have made or potentially beaten. But, that's part of fantasy football. No one owes me the privilege of checking every trade offer that comes through in case I'd match or beat it.
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Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

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2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby saw061600 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:41 pm

I get the frustration of the number 1 team adding more win now assets but I don't think the trade is awful.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
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Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby vixen » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:46 pm

saw061600 wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:41 pm I get the frustration of the number 1 team adding more win now assets but I don't think the trade is awful.
i agree...not to mention the fact that Antonio's value is quite low right now for many reasons (age, suspension possibility and team turmoil)
so his regular value of 3 1sts is no longer there
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: This dumb trade just went down -NEED OPNIONS

Postby mcdevittcj » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:34 pm

Nothing dumb about it, as pretty much everyone has said. Just because a top team improved doesn't make a trade unfair

Rodgers >> Rivers
D Freeman > Penny (not by much, injury concerns)
Brown > Hilton & Watkins (Brown has a murky situation)
Pick 15 <<< Pick 1
Pick 31 >>Pick 42
Future 2nd <<< Future 1st
Nothing <<< Future 2nd


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