Luck worth 1.07?

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Luck worth 1.07?

Postby Never Veto1 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:00 am

Is Luck worth the 1.07 in a 14 teamer? Looking for thoughts, I'm the owner of the 1.07 My team is kinda in the rebuilding phase where everything kinda feel completely apart last year so I decided to move some guys. I originally sent out an offer of 1.07/Rivers for Luck/Z. Jones/2.08 I was countered 1.07 for Luck. Should I stay the course and keep the pick or continue to figure out a deal for Luck.

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Rivers, Stafford
Fournette, Yeldon, Adams, Peterson, C. Thompson, Warren (pretty ugly)
Hilton, Kupp, Godwin, MVS, Foster, M Bryant, Nelson, Thomas
Gronk, Herdon, Gesicki
1.04 / 1.07 / 2.07
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12 Team 1QB PPR
8 Starters - QB 1, RB 2(4), WR 3(5), TE 1(3)

QB - Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, Kenny Pickett
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson, Kyren Williams, Travis Etienne, James Conner, Antonio Gibson, Chris Rodriguez
WR - Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Michael Pittman, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Jerry Jeudy, Rashod Bateman
TE - Sam Laporta, Kyle Pitts, Darren Waller, Isaiah Likely
Picks - 2.10, 3.10, 4.10, 5.10

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby abloom » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:15 am

I'm sorry are you saying that you are sending Luck for the 1.07, or trying to get luck for a 1.07? Is this a SF league?
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby Never Veto1 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:22 am

abloom wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:15 am I'm sorry are you saying that you are sending Luck for the 1.07, or trying to get luck for a 1.07? Is this a SF league?
Sorry about the terrible organization of the post, I cleaned it up hopefully
12 Team 1QB PPR
8 Starters - QB 1, RB 2(4), WR 3(5), TE 1(3)

QB - Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, Kenny Pickett
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson, Kyren Williams, Travis Etienne, James Conner, Antonio Gibson, Chris Rodriguez
WR - Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Michael Pittman, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Jerry Jeudy, Rashod Bateman
TE - Sam Laporta, Kyle Pitts, Darren Waller, Isaiah Likely
Picks - 2.10, 3.10, 4.10, 5.10

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby abloom » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:27 am

if SF, then yes,

if 1QB I'm still leaning towards yes with the condition that you then try to sell Rivers or Stafford for something you can use.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby Johnny Canuck » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:28 am

In a 1QB I think the value is about right. I have a hard time paying up for QBs in a 1QB, but having your QB position set for potentially the next 6-9 yrs is pretty nice. I also don't value draft picks very highly after pick 1.04 myself, so 1.07 doesn't feel like a huge price to pay.

That said, after looking at your roster, I think I'd rather just roll with Rivers next yr, and take whatever RB falls to 1.07, then take whatever QB falls to your 2.07 pick (Kyler or Haskins). You need some more RB depth (& starters), so taking an RB with 1.07, or trading 1.07 for an established RB, would help more than trading it for Luck imo.

If you really like one QB over the other, you could prob package 2.07 with Stafford to move up to 2.04ish so you can get your guy. IMO, in a 1QB, no QB in this draft should go before round 3, but if your worried about it that's prob a move you could make.

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:29 am

14-team 1QB: Luck > 1.07
14-team superflex or 2QB: Luck >>> 1.07
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby moishetreats » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:57 pm

Luck >> 1.07 in any 14-team league. Snap-accept regardless of your other QBs.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby Titans95 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:59 pm

I think Luck is worth close to the 1.05 or a bit higher in 1QB leagues. I get the hype of rookie picks and you could very well lose the trade in the long run but we KNOW Luck is going to be a top 5 QB for the next 5+ years. that 1.05 is a crap shoot

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:22 pm

man i know this is all opinion based but i really do not like the takes on this thread.

its a 1 qb and you have a guy who just finished top 6 and a guy who is only 31 and had a down year but has been a top qb before and is always serviceable at worst.

your RBs as to your own admission are trash, your wrs need help. just about the only thing you dont need to address is QB.

sending a first for a qb you dont need is not advised.

my answer is not only no but H*LL no i would not send 1.07 for luck with your team and your needs.

sorry to anyone i offended i just cannot support this
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby GridironGuerilla » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:39 pm

I'm with you Ross. Absolutely not. 14 team team 1 QB you roll with Stafford and Rivers. No way I'm spending a 1st on a QB. Never had to, never will.
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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby darewood11 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:20 pm

Agree with the above guys also and say no not in 1qb. You need other assets. I was able to move 2.05 last year for luck in 1qb and was still unsure about it.

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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby repkllrs » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:55 pm

Luck is easily worth that. Unless it is hard to make trades in this league, you can then trade either Rivers or Stafford. When rebuilding any trade for value is a good trade.
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Re: Luck worth 1.07?

Postby honcho55 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:27 pm

I’ve been active on other thread defending the value of QBs even in 1QB leagues, so take this post knowing I’m on that side.

I have luck worth literally double the 1.07 in pure value. Now there’s rosters I wouldn’t give, say, 1.07 and 1.08 for luck, sure. But I can’t imagine I’d pass on 1.07 for luck under really any circumstance.

However league climate on QB value could come into play here. Have to keep in mind that the entire league, not just yourself determines value, if Luck’s consensus value isn’t even close to 1.07, you won’t get a ham sandwich for rivers or Stafford.

Now, part of why I value QB higher also is that I suck at matchups. Rivers and Stafford QBBC could be very serviceable, but I’m personally a guarantee to start the wrong one (started the wrong Wilson/Goff all but 2 games last year in sig league)

With *that* said though, I have a hard time rostering one strong QB in a 14. Your QB goes down, your chances at competitiveness drop big time imo. Figure the top 20 QBs are rostered, minimum. Competitive teams are earning 30 ppg at QB, and you are now getting 15, with little to no recourse.
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12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT

QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy

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