Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby JDogil12 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:57 pm

Your 2020 first should be the foundation of your rebuild. I would try to sell everything, with 2020 firsts the goal. Hold Zeke unless you get an overpay. Rodgers is probably the only sell you can get value for minus Zeke. I would hold Yeldon until he gets a team, than capitalize if landing spot is good

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:59 pm

JDogil12 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:57 pm Your 2020 first should be the foundation of your rebuild. I would try to sell everything, with 2020 firsts the goal. Hold Zeke unless you get an overpay. Rodgers is probably the only sell you can get value for minus Zeke. I would hold Yeldon until he gets a team, than capitalize if landing spot is good
Ok thanks. I have gotten some offers for Zeke but nothing that really blows me away. I did the one owner that I would want the first and third overall for him seeing as how Elliot is my best player and only decent running back
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:05 pm

Nightmares wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:35 pm
jwb32 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:24 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:21 pm
Well I was thinking about countering with this, which may get rejected:
Elliot and 2020 1st round pick for 2019 1st overall, 2019 3rd overall, DJ Moore.
NO! That 2020 1st should be the 1.01 in a loaded class. That will be super valuable. DO NOT MOVE IT.
This. Also, I would not deal Zeke for the 1.1, 1.3 and Moore on his own, let alone adding a '20 1st.
yeah to move Elliot I want 4ish firsts in value
He's trying to gauge how savy of an owner you are that was a horrid offer

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby vixen » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:18 pm

yeah, i think if you can
send Zeke
get 1.01, 1.03 and DJ Moore (i would try to get another small piece like Cain, Callaway, Ballage, Hamilton type)
i would do that .....Moore is probably worth a little more than a 1st right now...

i agree the very first Callaway offer was about as bad as it gets and you should not have to add the 2020 1st to the other offer
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:20 pm

vixen wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:18 pm yeah, i think if you can
send Zeke
get 1.01, 1.03 and DJ Moore (i would try to get another small piece like Cain, Callaway, Ballage, Hamilton type)
i would do that .....Moore is probably worth a little more than a 1st right now...

i agree the very first Callaway offer was about as bad as it gets and you should not have to add the 2020 1st to the other offer
x2 on this idea Id push hard for callaway and Hamilton personally but I know a lot of ppl love cain

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby JDogil12 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:32 am

If you can get an added 2020 first to that Zeke deal I would jump on it

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:39 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:20 pm
vixen wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:18 pm yeah, i think if you can
send Zeke
get 1.01, 1.03 and DJ Moore (i would try to get another small piece like Cain, Callaway, Ballage, Hamilton type)
i would do that .....Moore is probably worth a little more than a 1st right now...

i agree the very first Callaway offer was about as bad as it gets and you should not have to add the 2020 1st to the other offer
x2 on this idea Id push hard for callaway and Hamilton personally but I know a lot of ppl love cain
I sent him the following offer and just waiting to see what he says:
Zeke for 2019 picks 1st overall and 3rd overall, Dj Moore, and Antonio Callaway

That is basically three first round picks and Callaway for Zeke.

I am also hoping to trade the 2019 2nd overall pick for the 2019 4th overall pick and 9th overall pick. It maybe a little in my favor but it is a starting point.

My priorities in the 2019 draft are:
1) Best RB available at whatever pick I end up having
2) Pick up a good tight end, hopefully Noah Fant or his teammate Hockenson.
3) Trade back and accumulate picks in 2020
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:20 am

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:39 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:20 pm
vixen wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:18 pm yeah, i think if you can
send Zeke
get 1.01, 1.03 and DJ Moore (i would try to get another small piece like Cain, Callaway, Ballage, Hamilton type)
i would do that .....Moore is probably worth a little more than a 1st right now...

i agree the very first Callaway offer was about as bad as it gets and you should not have to add the 2020 1st to the other offer
x2 on this idea Id push hard for callaway and Hamilton personally but I know a lot of ppl love cain
I sent him the following offer and just waiting to see what he says:
Zeke for 2019 picks 1st overall and 3rd overall, Dj Moore, and Antonio Callaway

That is basically three first round picks and Callaway for Zeke.

I am also hoping to trade the 2019 2nd overall pick for the 2019 4th overall pick and 9th overall pick. It maybe a little in my favor but it is a starting point.

My priorities in the 2019 draft are:
1) Best RB available at whatever pick I end up having
2) Pick up a good tight end, hopefully Noah Fant or his teammate Hockenson.
3) Trade back and accumulate picks in 2020
i think this is super gross and you should withdraw it immediately if he didnt smash accept it.

you need to get back another high end piece and 2 firsts. dont go for a lesser deal, dont go for picks that you dont have target payers in mind yet, dont target ok WRs on bad passing offenses, etc etc etc.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby Nightmares » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:56 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:20 am
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:39 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:20 pm
x2 on this idea Id push hard for callaway and Hamilton personally but I know a lot of ppl love cain
I sent him the following offer and just waiting to see what he says:
Zeke for 2019 picks 1st overall and 3rd overall, Dj Moore, and Antonio Callaway

That is basically three first round picks and Callaway for Zeke.

I am also hoping to trade the 2019 2nd overall pick for the 2019 4th overall pick and 9th overall pick. It maybe a little in my favor but it is a starting point.

My priorities in the 2019 draft are:
1) Best RB available at whatever pick I end up having
2) Pick up a good tight end, hopefully Noah Fant or his teammate Hockenson.
3) Trade back and accumulate picks in 2020
i think this is super gross and you should withdraw it immediately if he didnt smash accept it.

you need to get back another high end piece and 2 firsts. dont go for a lesser deal, dont go for picks that you dont have target payers in mind yet, dont target ok WRs on bad passing offenses, etc etc etc.
100% This is terrible. Revoke.

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:49 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:20 am
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:39 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:20 pm
x2 on this idea Id push hard for callaway and Hamilton personally but I know a lot of ppl love cain
I sent him the following offer and just waiting to see what he says:
Zeke for 2019 picks 1st overall and 3rd overall, Dj Moore, and Antonio Callaway

That is basically three first round picks and Callaway for Zeke.

I am also hoping to trade the 2019 2nd overall pick for the 2019 4th overall pick and 9th overall pick. It maybe a little in my favor but it is a starting point.

My priorities in the 2019 draft are:
1) Best RB available at whatever pick I end up having
2) Pick up a good tight end, hopefully Noah Fant or his teammate Hockenson.
3) Trade back and accumulate picks in 2020
i think this is super gross and you should withdraw it immediately if he didnt smash accept it.

you need to get back another high end piece and 2 firsts. dont go for a lesser deal, dont go for picks that you dont have target payers in mind yet, dont target ok WRs on bad passing offenses, etc etc etc.
So now I am confused. Some say that is a great offer and then some saying don't do it because it is a bad offer.
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby Nightmares » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:07 pm

The picks are nice, but I need a better player coming back than Moore if I'm dealing Zeke. Callaway is a throw in for me.

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Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:24 pm

Nightmares wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:07 pm The picks are nice, but I need a better player coming back than Moore if I'm dealing Zeke. Callaway is a throw in for me.
In my mind I would like having the picks because it in some ways allows for more flexibility.
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Postby jwb32 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:51 pm

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:24 pm
Nightmares wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:07 pm The picks are nice, but I need a better player coming back than Moore if I'm dealing Zeke. Callaway is a throw in for me.
In my mind I would like having the picks because it in some ways allows for more flexibility.
They are saying you should get a better/more proven player than DJ Moore in addition to the picks.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:55 pm

jwb32 wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:51 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:24 pm
Nightmares wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:07 pm The picks are nice, but I need a better player coming back than Moore if I'm dealing Zeke. Callaway is a throw in for me.
In my mind I would like having the picks because it in some ways allows for more flexibility.
They are saying you should get a better/more proven player than DJ Moore in addition to the picks.
Oh ok. I think that Moore is going to a really good player and that is why I was trying to get him and Callaway.
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Pick up an Orphan- Need Advice on Direction

Postby PhillySpecial » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:12 am

Hold Zeke but blow up everything else. That team needs alot of work and it should make for a fun year of wheeling and dealing.
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

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