Carson for Sammy?

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Carson for Sammy?

Postby keebs3 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:39 pm

Would you move Chris Carson for Sammy Watkins?
Which side, by how much for you?
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby smallxl » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:43 pm

I prefer Carson but not by much
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:55 pm

smallxl wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:43 pm I prefer Carson but not by much
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby darewood11 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:57 pm

I'm the opposite. I'll take sammy by a 3rd.

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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby Pantherbro13 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:06 am

I’ll take Sammy here
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:49 am

sammy. i will be shocked if carson is the lead back in 3 seasons. i wont be shocked if sammy is a still opposite ty hill in 3 seasons. longevity and his role in his current offense make me say sammy.
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Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby CurtisMyFavMartin » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:07 am

Carson by a 2nd for me. Watkins has done absolutely nothing in years. He always injured and has only 2 big games a year, which leads to a complete lack of confidence in starting him.
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby BiggieV » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:21 am

CurtisMyFavMartin wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:07 am Carson by a 2nd for me. Watkins has done absolutely nothing in years. He always injured and has only 2 big games a year, which leads to a complete lack of confidence in starting him.
I am of the same thinking. Not sure how Watkins carries any value still at this point. Carson has a starting gig to lose, which he has shown all year he has no intention of doing!

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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby jwb32 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:30 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:49 am sammy. i will be shocked if carson is the lead back in 3 seasons. i wont be shocked if sammy is a still opposite ty hill in 3 seasons. longevity and his role in his current offense make me say sammy.
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TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby CurtisMyFavMartin » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:40 am

Seriously, Watkins is the #63 ranked WR in PPR. That’s a high end WR6.

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This time next year he’ll be on the WW.
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby Tyrober » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:56 am

I would much prefer to have Watkins. I am in the minority and I am fine with that but Sammy by a lot for me.

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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby jwb32 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:09 am

CurtisMyFavMartin wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:40 am Seriously, Watkins is the #63 ranked WR in PPR. That’s a high end WR6.

Wide.
Receiver.
6.

This time next year he’ll be on the WW.
C'mon man. He was WR24 weeks 1-9 before injury. Safe to say he will not be on any waiver wires any time soon.
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:18 am

CurtisMyFavMartin wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:40 am Seriously, Watkins is the #63 ranked WR in PPR. That’s a high end WR6.

Wide.
Receiver.
6.

This time next year he’ll be on the WW.
this time next year he will be 26 years old and playing wr2 for the chiefs (under contract), catching passes from patrick mahomes who just threw for 50 scores this past season.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:51 am

CurtisMyFavMartin wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:40 am Seriously, Watkins is the #63 ranked WR in PPR. That’s a high end WR6.

Wide.
Receiver.
6.

This time next year he’ll be on the WW.
That's...that's not how statistics work. You know he missed games due to injury right? Look at his PPG.

That said, Watkins's injury issues is exactly why he's not valued much higher right now. There's plenty of risk in both Watkins and Carson, but I'll take the no. 3 guy on the most efficient offense in the league.
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Re: Carson for Sammy?

Postby Goddard » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:01 am

Watkins will have name value and will probably always be worth more than Carson. Carson can very easily out-produce him next year, but we'll continue to think that someone else is eventually going to take over and Sammy is going to stay healthy and be consistent. So I guess if I were to move Carson for Sammy, I'd only do it because I'd want to flip him for something better.


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