Kupp Value in Picks?
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Kupp Value in Picks?
If you were buying Kupp with a 2019 1st, what's the highest pick you would offer? Kupp owner approached me looking for 1.02 and 1.10. The 1.02 I got in trade, and my team is decent, but lacks depth...although I do have 4 2nds as well.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
I don't think Kupp is worth that. I'd have a hard time paying the 1.02 alone for him, TBH.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
i wouldnt part with 1.02 for kupp
id certainly add to 1.10 for him though
id certainly add to 1.10 for him though
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
I like Kupp and of course the Rams offense but coming off an ACL tear scares me. plus he is no better than the 3rd or 4th option on that team. before he went down with an injury he was on pace for just 80 catches. Id have to read up more on whats expected from his recovery but if that all checked out I might be willing to pay a late 1st for him. I was actually looking to acquire him last weak from an owner who is weak at TE and I offered Greg Olsen and a 2nd rd pick and he countered with Kittle straight up. My head exploded and I haven't talked to him since lol
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
I think Kupp is well worth the 1.02 as a rock-solid PPR WR2. He is the go-to guy for Goff when healthy. I would counter with 1.02 for Kupp straight up, or 1.02 + 1.10 for Kupp + his 2nd.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
I think there are a few WRs in this draft that can turn into real studs. I wouldn't pay the 1.02, but I'd probably do it for the 1.04/5...also, I like Kupp, but I'm probably not as high on him as most.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
I'm with Goddard here.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
He was on pace for 1100/80/12 and that doesn't account for the fact that in two of those games he didn't even play a half. Averaged more ppg than AJG/KA/Cooks. Offering a 2nd and a injured TE in his last NFL season... that would make my head explore too.grandmabetty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:29 pm I like Kupp and of course the Rams offense but coming off an ACL tear scares me. plus he is no better than the 3rd or 4th option on that team. before he went down with an injury he was on pace for just 80 catches. Id have to read up more on whats expected from his recovery but if that all checked out I might be willing to pay a late 1st for him. I was actually looking to acquire him last weak from an owner who is weak at TE and I offered Greg Olsen and a 2nd rd pick and he countered with Kittle straight up. My head exploded and I haven't talked to him since lol
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
For what's it's worth he was drafted in a dispersal draft today after the 1.01 but before the 1.02 in a PPR league. I don't think the 1.02 is far off but not both firsts.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
Two 1sts.
Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
Kupp was wr4 before his first injury in week 6. Yes, the overall WR4 in ppr leagues through the first 33% of the season. Greg Olsen and a 2nd? lol. We all saw how the Rams offense performed after Kupp was lost for the season. I’d pay the 1.02 or 1.03 for him.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
Fair enough but regarding my trade offer im not in the business of getting ripped off, I would prefer to do the ripping off myself. Do you think Kittle for Kupp straight up is a good trade for the kittle owner? there are about 25+ Cooper Kupps in fantasy football each year there are exactly 3 TE's in the same category as Kittle and only 1 of them is both 25 years old and also set the TE yardage record in his 2nd season as a Pro with 3 different starting QB's. Lets also not forget that Kupp just tore his ACL. Maybe for others it doesn't bother them but that certainly brings his value down for me especially if im talking about trading for him.DinoDynasty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:12 pmHe was on pace for 1100/80/12 and that doesn't account for the fact that in two of those games he didn't even play a half. Averaged more ppg than AJG/KA/Cooks. Offering a 2nd and a injured TE in his last NFL season... that would make my head explore too.grandmabetty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:29 pm I like Kupp and of course the Rams offense but coming off an ACL tear scares me. plus he is no better than the 3rd or 4th option on that team. before he went down with an injury he was on pace for just 80 catches. Id have to read up more on whats expected from his recovery but if that all checked out I might be willing to pay a late 1st for him. I was actually looking to acquire him last weak from an owner who is weak at TE and I offered Greg Olsen and a 2nd rd pick and he countered with Kittle straight up. My head exploded and I haven't talked to him since lol
Trading is about circumstance, this owner came to me desperate for TE help and he is really clamoring to win the league next year as he is making all sorts of moves. AKA, this GM came off as desperate to make a deal. That was my 1st offer. Doesn't mean I wouldn't have made another offer nor does it mean I think it was a very good offer but trade talks shut down after he asked for Kittle straight up.
Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
Kittle for Kupp isn’t fair, you are right but it’s a lot closer than Olsen and a random second for Kupp. Kupp is a 4th rd start up pick. Kittle 3rd.grandmabetty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:22 pmFair enough but regarding my trade offer im not in the business of getting ripped off, I would prefer to do the ripping off myself. Do you think Kittle for Kupp straight up is a good trade for the kittle owner? there are about 25+ Cooper Kupps in fantasy football each year there are exactly 3 TE's in the same category as Kittle and only 1 of them is both 25 years old and also set the TE yardage record in his 2nd season as a Pro with 3 different starting QB's. Lets also not forget that Kupp just tore his ACL. Maybe for others it doesn't bother them but that certainly brings his value down for me especially if im talking about trading for him.DinoDynasty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:12 pmHe was on pace for 1100/80/12 and that doesn't account for the fact that in two of those games he didn't even play a half. Averaged more ppg than AJG/KA/Cooks. Offering a 2nd and a injured TE in his last NFL season... that would make my head explore too.grandmabetty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:29 pm I like Kupp and of course the Rams offense but coming off an ACL tear scares me. plus he is no better than the 3rd or 4th option on that team. before he went down with an injury he was on pace for just 80 catches. Id have to read up more on whats expected from his recovery but if that all checked out I might be willing to pay a late 1st for him. I was actually looking to acquire him last weak from an owner who is weak at TE and I offered Greg Olsen and a 2nd rd pick and he countered with Kittle straight up. My head exploded and I haven't talked to him since lol
Trading is about circumstance, this owner came to me desperate for TE help and he is really clamoring to win the league next year as he is making all sorts of moves. AKA, this GM came off as desperate to make a deal. That was my 1st offer. Doesn't mean I wouldn't have made another offer nor does it mean I think it was a very good offer but trade talks shut down after he asked for Kittle straight up.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
I would agree with thatXclickX wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:42 pmKittle for Kupp isn’t fair, you are right but it’s a lot closer than Olsen and a random second for Kupp. Kupp is a 4th rd start up pick. Kittle 3rd.grandmabetty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:22 pmFair enough but regarding my trade offer im not in the business of getting ripped off, I would prefer to do the ripping off myself. Do you think Kittle for Kupp straight up is a good trade for the kittle owner? there are about 25+ Cooper Kupps in fantasy football each year there are exactly 3 TE's in the same category as Kittle and only 1 of them is both 25 years old and also set the TE yardage record in his 2nd season as a Pro with 3 different starting QB's. Lets also not forget that Kupp just tore his ACL. Maybe for others it doesn't bother them but that certainly brings his value down for me especially if im talking about trading for him.DinoDynasty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:12 pm
He was on pace for 1100/80/12 and that doesn't account for the fact that in two of those games he didn't even play a half. Averaged more ppg than AJG/KA/Cooks. Offering a 2nd and a injured TE in his last NFL season... that would make my head explore too.
Trading is about circumstance, this owner came to me desperate for TE help and he is really clamoring to win the league next year as he is making all sorts of moves. AKA, this GM came off as desperate to make a deal. That was my 1st offer. Doesn't mean I wouldn't have made another offer nor does it mean I think it was a very good offer but trade talks shut down after he asked for Kittle straight up.
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Re: Kupp Value in Picks?
I’m a Kupp believer. I think 1.02 is slightly too much to pay but if you could get a 2nd back on top of Kupp I might pull the trigger.
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