Ah crap I totally forgot about that weird story about him tearing his labrum lol I gotta admit that doesn't look very good but other than that I just looked it up and he missed 2 games in college in 3 years of playing being the absolute workhorse for his team. How do we know Josh Jacobs is extremely durable? He's had had 85/46/120 carries in 3 years vs 170/229/288 from Cook.Vcize wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:16 pmHe did miss a few games with a sprained ankle and hamstring injuries in college, but the main thing was he tore his labrum twice in college (both requiring surgery), with one of them happening when he literally fell over while just walking around and tried to catch himself as he fell.Titans95 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:12 pmWhat injury concerns? He didn't miss a single game in college. Again I like Jacobs as the RB1 in this class but he isn't even close to the same prospect as Cook coming into the league.Vcize wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:22 pm
Back to back injury riddled seasons for a guy that had injury concerns coming into the league isn't exactly a good thing.
It is looking more and more like Jacobs is going to have higher NFL draft capital than Cook. Situation is of course still unknown but there are some very good ones out there.
Cook wasn't able to plant Latavius Murray on the bench this year.
A lot of his prospect scouting reports mentioned injuries as a concern.
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Personally I’d have Cook in the same tier as guys like Marlon Mack and Aaron Jones...even though they’ve been slightly more productive than him.keebs3 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:33 amWell, it obviously is a conversation, since we are having it. But I still rank Dalvin at the end of the RB1 tier. How many could really be ranked higher? Sony, Bell, Guice, Fournette, Jones? I can't see selling a dynasty RB1 for an unproven rookie.Pantherbro13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:39 amAbsolutely is a conversation. Cook has not shown to be a “top tier RB”. He had as many 100 yard rushing games as Latavius Murray, running behind the same line. Cook scored two rushing TDs in one game, zero in the rest he played. Six games averaging under 4 ypc, four of those being under 3 ypc. Didn’t have a single game with 20 carries. Nothing screams top tier to me.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:47 am
Come on, yes it should. With professional scouts saying Jacobs has early first talent, an no injury history like Dalvin, it absolutely should. When has Dalvin been a top tier RB? He's flashed a few good games, but as an owner, the idea that it shouldn't be a conversation is a bit much, even for a guy who is invested. There is a case to be made for the 1.01. In a league where I am a heavy rebuild, I would not sell my 1.01 for Dalvin, but in another league where I hope to contend, I'd keep Dalvin over 1.01.
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Re: Dalvin or 1.1
I feel the 1.01 is the safer asset to own, but I do not blame Dalvin Cook believers for valuing him more than the 1.01.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Dalvin or 1.1
Let me ask this for all the 1.01 people out there. Would you rather have the 1.01 or Guice?
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I would need a 2020 1.01 plus something else for Cook
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I'm just saying if he is this good then why isn't Harris getting any love he outplayed Jacobs each of the last 3 years ?BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:32 pmtheres nothing beyond an eye test to suggest jacobs is even 2nd best on his own team, not his touches, not his totals, not his ypc, not his receiving game, not his scoring prowess. dude is being massively elevated by scouts and film watchers. i cant remember a burst like this in recent years.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:28 pmThis statement is just plain wrong, IMO. Subjective, obviously, but to me he's the best back on that team, and will easily have the best career of the 3 at the next level.AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:43 am I mean really who would you rather have Jacobs that was the 3rd best RB on his college team or Cook that showed he can play 3 downs in the NFL on a great offence but just got hurt.
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Re: Dalvin or 1.1
^^^^^^^
This player is going to be the most polarizing player of the draft class, FF wise. I can see it already.
This player is going to be the most polarizing player of the draft class, FF wise. I can see it already.
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Re: Dalvin or 1.1
Just curious. The sentiment towards the end of this season has been many would take Guice as the 1.01 in the draft class, if that's the case to some how on earth could Guice be worth more than Cook?
Cook seems to not get the love he deserves IMO on this forum. I remember a thread last offseason that someone was trading Cook for J. Hoard and Sutton and I was the only person of like 10 responders to say Cook. Makes me think I need to start sending offers for Cook wherever I can
Re: Dalvin or 1.1
I think they might still take Guice at 1.01, but in terms of value, you could get more for the 1.01.Titans95 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:49 amJust curious. The sentiment towards the end of this season has been many would take Guice as the 1.01 in the draft class, if that's the case to some how on earth could Guice be worth more than Cook?
Cook seems to not get the love he deserves IMO on this forum. I remember a thread last offseason that someone was trading Cook for J. Hoard and Sutton and I was the only person of like 10 responders to say Cook. Makes me think I need to start sending offers for Cook wherever I can
I also am looking at deals for Cook if able. I think he's got the talent but at times, his injury risk seems like it's not proceed into his value. That worries me
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Do you have a link to that thread? I find that a little hard to believe. Last offseason people were crazy high on Cook. Way too high for a guy that had a small handful of good games and then a major injury.Titans95 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:49 amJust curious. The sentiment towards the end of this season has been many would take Guice as the 1.01 in the draft class, if that's the case to some how on earth could Guice be worth more than Cook?
Cook seems to not get the love he deserves IMO on this forum. I remember a thread last offseason that someone was trading Cook for J. Hoard and Sutton and I was the only person of like 10 responders to say Cook. Makes me think I need to start sending offers for Cook wherever I can
His startup ADP last offseason was 2.2, ahead of guys like CMC, Adams, and Mixon.
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viewtopic.php?f=6&t=166905&hilit=HowardVcize wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:34 amDo you have a link to that thread? I find that a little hard to believe. Last offseason people were crazy high on Cook. Way too high for a guy that had a small handful of good games and then a major injury.Titans95 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:49 amJust curious. The sentiment towards the end of this season has been many would take Guice as the 1.01 in the draft class, if that's the case to some how on earth could Guice be worth more than Cook?
Cook seems to not get the love he deserves IMO on this forum. I remember a thread last offseason that someone was trading Cook for J. Hoard and Sutton and I was the only person of like 10 responders to say Cook. Makes me think I need to start sending offers for Cook wherever I can
His startup ADP last offseason was 2.2, ahead of guys like CMC, Adams, and Mixon.
His ADP was a bit inflated but for guys like me who had Cook above LF in their rookie rankings it wasn't way too high for me, probably would've kept CMC ahead and maybe Adams but Mixon didn't exactly have a stellar rookie campaign, CMC didn't prove anyone that he could run between the tackles and Adams still hadn't had a "Breakout" year although I was in the camp that saw it brewing, Cook was a high end prospect in my eyes that showed well on a team that wanted to run the ball first, he was a 3 down workhorse when he was on the field and did well with his limited touches so I loved his situation on a run first offense with an amazing defense and 3 down skill set to be a top 5-10 Rb this past season, obviously the hamstring and the vikings offense as a whole put a big damper on those expectations.
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