Dalvin or 1.1

[Vcize]

This is incredibly misleading. He tore his ACL 4 games into his rookie season. He then missed 5 games in his sophmore campaign. Pre-ACL he looked great.

Back to back injury riddled seasons for a guy that had injury concerns coming into the league isn't exactly a good thing.

It is looking more and more like Jacobs is going to have higher NFL draft capital than Cook. Situation is of course still unknown but there are some very good ones out there.

Cook wasn't able to plant Latavius Murray on the bench this year.

What injury concerns? He didn't miss a single game in college. Again I like Jacobs as the RB1 in this class but he isn't even close to the same prospect as Cook coming into the league.

He did miss a few games with a sprained ankle and hamstring injuries in college, but the main thing was he tore his labrum twice in college (both requiring surgery), with one of them happening when he literally fell over while just walking around and tried to catch himself as he fell.

A lot of his prospect scouting reports mentioned injuries as a concern.

[AresGodOWar]

Cook by another early 1st

[keebs3]

Cook for me, but a decent amount.
Sure- anyone that could be drafted at 1.1 could end up being higher than current players. It's all about the odds and I'm taking the guy I've seen be a top tier RB in the NFL.
This shouldn't be a conversation, IMO

[BigBawseRoss]

1.01 and then i prob sell it for someone i feel better about than dalvin

[FantasyFreak]

Cook for me, but a decent amount.
Sure- anyone that could be drafted at 1.1 could end up being higher than current players. It's all about the odds and I'm taking the guy I've seen be a top tier RB in the NFL.
This shouldn't be a conversation, IMO

Come on, yes it should. With professional scouts saying Jacobs has early first talent, an no injury history like Dalvin, it absolutely should. When has Dalvin been a top tier RB? He's flashed a few good games, but as an owner, the idea that it shouldn't be a conversation is a bit much, even for a guy who is invested. There is a case to be made for the 1.01. In a league where I am a heavy rebuild, I would not sell my 1.01 for Dalvin, but in another league where I hope to contend, I'd keep Dalvin over 1.01.

[RAB]

If you drafted Dalvin 1.04 two years ago and you watched him put up RB66 and RB31 seasons in 2 years of .5 point ppr, you might feel like getting a 1.01 now could be your last opportunity to get your money back.

This is incredibly misleading. He tore his ACL 4 games into his rookie season. He then missed 5 games in his sophmore campaign. Pre-ACL he looked great.

It's not misleading at all.......it's fact. When you pay a top draft pick for a player you expect top returns. It's been 2 years with little return. I'm just making the point that if offered the 1.01 for him some people might feel like they're getting a better pick back than they paid for a player that did very little for their team in 2 years. At this point it's still a crap shoot whether you have Cook or a rookie RB you take at 1.01. I personally just traded FOR Dalvin Cook in one league I'm in but I'm not confident at all. The person who has the 1.01 has zero interest in Cook btw

[RB6]

If you drafted Dalvin 1.04 two years ago and you watched him put up RB66 and RB31 seasons in 2 years of .5 point ppr, you might feel like getting a 1.01 now could be your last opportunity to get your money back.

This is incredibly misleading. He tore his ACL 4 games into his rookie season. He then missed 5 games in his sophmore campaign. Pre-ACL he looked great.

It's not misleading at all.......it's fact. When you pay a top draft pick for a player you expect top returns. It's been 2 years with little return. I'm just making the point that if offered the 1.01 for him some people might feel like they're getting a better pick back than they paid for a player that did very little for their team in 2 years. At this point it's still a crap shoot whether you have Cook or a rookie RB you take at 1.01. I personally just traded FOR Dalvin Cook in one league I'm in but I'm not confident at all. The person who has the 1.01 has zero interest in Cook btw

When you simply state he finished RB66 and RB31, it makes him look terrible. You need to qualify that he missed significant time in both seasons which led to those low finishes.

[Pantherbro13]

Cook for me, but a decent amount.
Sure- anyone that could be drafted at 1.1 could end up being higher than current players. It's all about the odds and I'm taking the guy I've seen be a top tier RB in the NFL.
This shouldn't be a conversation, IMO

Come on, yes it should. With professional scouts saying Jacobs has early first talent, an no injury history like Dalvin, it absolutely should. When has Dalvin been a top tier RB? He's flashed a few good games, but as an owner, the idea that it shouldn't be a conversation is a bit much, even for a guy who is invested. There is a case to be made for the 1.01. In a league where I am a heavy rebuild, I would not sell my 1.01 for Dalvin, but in another league where I hope to contend, I'd keep Dalvin over 1.01.

Absolutely is a conversation. Cook has not shown to be a “top tier RB”. He had as many 100 yard rushing games as Latavius Murray, running behind the same line. Cook scored two rushing TDs in one game, zero in the rest he played. Six games averaging under 4 ypc, four of those being under 3 ypc. Didn’t have a single game with 20 carries. Nothing screams top tier to me.

[AresGodOWar]

I mean really who would you rather have Jacobs that was the 3rd best RB on his college team or Cook that showed he can play 3 downs in the NFL on a great offence but just got hurt.

[Goddard]

Dalvin for me as well, but I do think it's close. I know everyone hates this class, but there are a few WRs who can turn into the next OBJ/Nuk and those guys will be worth much more than most RBs in a year or two.

[eraldo_coil]

I'd take the 1.01 and then trade it again for much more than Dalvin's value when April rolls around.

[keebs3]

Cook for me, but a decent amount.
Sure- anyone that could be drafted at 1.1 could end up being higher than current players. It's all about the odds and I'm taking the guy I've seen be a top tier RB in the NFL.
This shouldn't be a conversation, IMO

Come on, yes it should. With professional scouts saying Jacobs has early first talent, an no injury history like Dalvin, it absolutely should. When has Dalvin been a top tier RB? He's flashed a few good games, but as an owner, the idea that it shouldn't be a conversation is a bit much, even for a guy who is invested. There is a case to be made for the 1.01. In a league where I am a heavy rebuild, I would not sell my 1.01 for Dalvin, but in another league where I hope to contend, I'd keep Dalvin over 1.01.

Absolutely is a conversation. Cook has not shown to be a “top tier RB”. He had as many 100 yard rushing games as Latavius Murray, running behind the same line. Cook scored two rushing TDs in one game, zero in the rest he played. Six games averaging under 4 ypc, four of those being under 3 ypc. Didn’t have a single game with 20 carries. Nothing screams top tier to me.

Well, it obviously is a conversation, since we are having it. But I still rank Dalvin at the end of the RB1 tier. How many could really be ranked higher? Sony, Bell, Guice, Fournette, Jones? I can't see selling a dynasty RB1 for an unproven rookie.

[FantasyFreak]

I mean really who would you rather have Jacobs that was the 3rd best RB on his college team or Cook that showed he can play 3 downs in the NFL on a great offence but just got hurt.

This statement is just plain wrong, IMO. Subjective, obviously, but to me he's the best back on that team, and will easily have the best career of the 3 at the next level.

[BigBawseRoss]

I mean really who would you rather have Jacobs that was the 3rd best RB on his college team or Cook that showed he can play 3 downs in the NFL on a great offence but just got hurt.

This statement is just plain wrong, IMO. Subjective, obviously, but to me he's the best back on that team, and will easily have the best career of the 3 at the next level.

theres nothing beyond an eye test to suggest jacobs is even 2nd best on his own team, not his touches, not his totals, not his ypc, not his receiving game, not his scoring prowess. dude is being massively elevated by scouts and film watchers. i cant remember a burst like this in recent years.

[Titans95]

I mean really who would you rather have Jacobs that was the 3rd best RB on his college team or Cook that showed he can play 3 downs in the NFL on a great offence but just got hurt.

This statement is just plain wrong, IMO. Subjective, obviously, but to me he's the best back on that team, and will easily have the best career of the 3 at the next level.

theres nothing beyond an eye test to suggest jacobs is even 2nd best on his own team, not his touches, not his totals, not his ypc, not his receiving game, not his scoring prowess. dude is being massively elevated by scouts and film watchers. i cant remember a burst like this in recent years.

I barely even knew his name until the last couple of games in college and I remember thinking "holy cow this kid is going to fly up draft boards" didn't think it would be this high. He does remind me a little of Alvin Kamara in the sense he looked like the best RB but never got the chance to be the workhorse. We shall see. Still think he has no right to be in the discussion with Cook until proven otherwise. Just like Kamara had no business being in discussion with Mixon/LF/Cook/CMC until he proved otherwise.