Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
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Alextzak77
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Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
I have both and Im wondering how should I be valuing them, me personally I think williams will take over and be a great rb1 with the kc offense. What do you guys think?
16 team dynasty Standard. 1 flex
Qb-Mahomes
Wr-Edelman, Zay Jones, Fuller, C Hogan, C Conley, P garçon, J Kumerow, Cester Rodgers
Rb-Barkley, Zek, Damien Williams, Gio Bernard, Mike Davis, Chase edmunds, Steven Ridley
12 Team PPR 2 flex 2 superflex
Qb- Dak, Mayfield, J Allen
Wr- Boyd, A cooper, Fuller, R Anderson, KeKe, Hogan, Goodwin, Cobb, zay Jones, Tyrell Williams, C meredith,
Rb- gurley, Conner, Damien Williams, S ware, Darrel Williams, j Kelly, C edmunds, jaylin samuels, J Rodgers
Te-ertz, Doyle, higbee
12 Team Half PPR 2 flex 1 Sflex
Qb- mariota, Mayfield, bortles
Wr- E sanders, D Adams, A cooper, W fuller, G Tate, R Anderson, R foster,
Rbs- DJ, M Ingram, R bulkhead, C Thompson, A Morris, S ware, W gallman and ivory
Te- Ertz, eifert, G Everett
10 team PPR 2 rb 3 wr 1 flex
qb-Jimmy G, Matt R, josh Allen
Wr- d Adams, Aj green, E sanders, W fuller, Roddy A, zay jones, Keke, R foster, Boyd
rb- d Henry , DJ, R burkhead, CJA, chubb, Ware, patterson, Yeldon
Te- njuko, Doyle
Qb-Mahomes
Wr-Edelman, Zay Jones, Fuller, C Hogan, C Conley, P garçon, J Kumerow, Cester Rodgers
Rb-Barkley, Zek, Damien Williams, Gio Bernard, Mike Davis, Chase edmunds, Steven Ridley
12 Team PPR 2 flex 2 superflex
Qb- Dak, Mayfield, J Allen
Wr- Boyd, A cooper, Fuller, R Anderson, KeKe, Hogan, Goodwin, Cobb, zay Jones, Tyrell Williams, C meredith,
Rb- gurley, Conner, Damien Williams, S ware, Darrel Williams, j Kelly, C edmunds, jaylin samuels, J Rodgers
Te-ertz, Doyle, higbee
12 Team Half PPR 2 flex 1 Sflex
Qb- mariota, Mayfield, bortles
Wr- E sanders, D Adams, A cooper, W fuller, G Tate, R Anderson, R foster,
Rbs- DJ, M Ingram, R bulkhead, C Thompson, A Morris, S ware, W gallman and ivory
Te- Ertz, eifert, G Everett
10 team PPR 2 rb 3 wr 1 flex
qb-Jimmy G, Matt R, josh Allen
Wr- d Adams, Aj green, E sanders, W fuller, Roddy A, zay jones, Keke, R foster, Boyd
rb- d Henry , DJ, R burkhead, CJA, chubb, Ware, patterson, Yeldon
Te- njuko, Doyle
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WhatWouldDitkaDo
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Re: Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
Williams = late 1st
Ware = early 3rd
Ware = early 3rd
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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ThatGuyBrian
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Re: Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
If you are going to move either one I would do it quickly before the draft. Rumors and some mocks have the Chiefs taking a running back, Josh Jacobs has been the name. Those are just opinions but should the chiefs take a running back early it would hurt Williams' value.
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10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
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QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
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10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
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QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
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The.Big.Spank
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Re: Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
Personally, I think people who think that either RB is the lead back in KC next year are wildly mistaken. There are just too many good options out there to choose from. Carson, Mike Davis, Tevin Coleman, Mack Brown, Ajayi, and then all the rookie Rb's coming out.
I think all of them are better options than those two who have only seen a starters role due to injury. Other than that they were bench fodder. If they were lead back material, they would have shown more up to this point and KC would have never drafted Hunt in the first place if they thought Ware was serviceable.
I think all of them are better options than those two who have only seen a starters role due to injury. Other than that they were bench fodder. If they were lead back material, they would have shown more up to this point and KC would have never drafted Hunt in the first place if they thought Ware was serviceable.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
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Re: Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
if i could get a first for either guy i would sell right away otherwise i will hold and hope they are the starter.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
How gallant of you Ross, but I do agree. I would rather hold than take a late 2nd for either, but I don't delude myself that they have long legs when it comes to being relevant.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:17 pm if i could get a first for either guy i would sell right away otherwise i will hold and hope they are the starter.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
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Alextzak77
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Re: Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
A little off topic but god damn the team you have in your sig is amazingThe.Big.Spank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:22 pmHow gallant of you Ross, but I do agree. I would rather hold than take a late 2nd for either, but I don't delude myself that they have long legs when it comes to being relevant.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:17 pm if i could get a first for either guy i would sell right away otherwise i will hold and hope they are the starter.
16 team dynasty Standard. 1 flex
Qb-Mahomes
Wr-Edelman, Zay Jones, Fuller, C Hogan, C Conley, P garçon, J Kumerow, Cester Rodgers
Rb-Barkley, Zek, Damien Williams, Gio Bernard, Mike Davis, Chase edmunds, Steven Ridley
12 Team PPR 2 flex 2 superflex
Qb- Dak, Mayfield, J Allen
Wr- Boyd, A cooper, Fuller, R Anderson, KeKe, Hogan, Goodwin, Cobb, zay Jones, Tyrell Williams, C meredith,
Rb- gurley, Conner, Damien Williams, S ware, Darrel Williams, j Kelly, C edmunds, jaylin samuels, J Rodgers
Te-ertz, Doyle, higbee
12 Team Half PPR 2 flex 1 Sflex
Qb- mariota, Mayfield, bortles
Wr- E sanders, D Adams, A cooper, W fuller, G Tate, R Anderson, R foster,
Rbs- DJ, M Ingram, R bulkhead, C Thompson, A Morris, S ware, W gallman and ivory
Te- Ertz, eifert, G Everett
10 team PPR 2 rb 3 wr 1 flex
qb-Jimmy G, Matt R, josh Allen
Wr- d Adams, Aj green, E sanders, W fuller, Roddy A, zay jones, Keke, R foster, Boyd
rb- d Henry , DJ, R burkhead, CJA, chubb, Ware, patterson, Yeldon
Te- njuko, Doyle
Qb-Mahomes
Wr-Edelman, Zay Jones, Fuller, C Hogan, C Conley, P garçon, J Kumerow, Cester Rodgers
Rb-Barkley, Zek, Damien Williams, Gio Bernard, Mike Davis, Chase edmunds, Steven Ridley
12 Team PPR 2 flex 2 superflex
Qb- Dak, Mayfield, J Allen
Wr- Boyd, A cooper, Fuller, R Anderson, KeKe, Hogan, Goodwin, Cobb, zay Jones, Tyrell Williams, C meredith,
Rb- gurley, Conner, Damien Williams, S ware, Darrel Williams, j Kelly, C edmunds, jaylin samuels, J Rodgers
Te-ertz, Doyle, higbee
12 Team Half PPR 2 flex 1 Sflex
Qb- mariota, Mayfield, bortles
Wr- E sanders, D Adams, A cooper, W fuller, G Tate, R Anderson, R foster,
Rbs- DJ, M Ingram, R bulkhead, C Thompson, A Morris, S ware, W gallman and ivory
Te- Ertz, eifert, G Everett
10 team PPR 2 rb 3 wr 1 flex
qb-Jimmy G, Matt R, josh Allen
Wr- d Adams, Aj green, E sanders, W fuller, Roddy A, zay jones, Keke, R foster, Boyd
rb- d Henry , DJ, R burkhead, CJA, chubb, Ware, patterson, Yeldon
Te- njuko, Doyle
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Re: Damien Williams value Vrs Spencer Wares value
Carson has 2 more years leftThe.Big.Spank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:35 am Personally, I think people who think that either RB is the lead back in KC next year are wildly mistaken. There are just too many good options out there to choose from. Carson, Mike Davis, Tevin Coleman, Mack Brown, Ajayi, and then all the rookie Rb's coming out.
I think all of them are better options than those two who have only seen a starters role due to injury. Other than that they were bench fodder. If they were lead back material, they would have shown more up to this point and KC would have never drafted Hunt in the first place if they thought Ware was serviceable.
Who is to say Mike Davis is better than Williams?
Coleman will be exp. Chiefs have some cap but not that much.
Mack Brown??
Chiefs def is terrible. First 3-4 picks should all be on defensive players. They know why the lost Sunday. It wans't because of the RB
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