damien williams or???

[vixen]

this is a 14 team league...
would you trade
give damien williams
get chad williams, 2020 2nd and 2 2020 4ths

the 2nd was a bottom team, but he does own 4 1st round picks in 2019...and 2 2020 1sts

my team:
Q: GQ, Rosen, Alex Smith and Sloter
R: Guice, Kerryon, Henry, Ballage, Damien, Jaylen, Prosise
W: Keenan, Ridley, A Miller, Callaway, Foster/McKenzie, Bourne, Cain, Dorsett, Ateman, Jordy, Snead
T: HH, Butt, Higbee
1.01, 1.02, 1.09, 2.01, 2.02, 3.01

start 1Q, 2R, 2W, 1SF, 2Flex..TE premium league 6pt for all TDs

i finished last in the league, but i don't actually think this team is terrible
i will certainly use one of my first two picks on a QB...the rest is up in the air...i can start up to 5RBs (but would likely only 4 due to the superflex aspect)..i think i have 3 decent ones in Guice/Kerryon/Henry...and obviuosly a top WR in KA... Hopefully HH comes back to form as well... do you think Damien will be a starter? i think this offer may be too low (other owner has no 2019 picks)

thanks for the help

[wilson]

no way, you get basically nothing in return

[AresGodOWar]

Not close , I say do or die with DWill.. Either he is named the starter next year and is a top 5ish RB or he isn't and he isn't worth much.

[FantasyFreak]

I say make the deal. Williams is trash, might as well cash out while he's worth anything at all.

[wilson]

At least counter for a 1st round pick, but I agree with Ares, he will either be good or not. While your team may not be terrible it still needs alot of help. Wiilliams should be a piece you could trade to that end. If he does not want to give a first then I would hold and hope you can get a good pick early next year, good luck...

[vixen]

I say make the deal. Williams is trash, might as well cash out while he's worth anything at all.

hahaha, you again!

[FantasyFreak]

At least counter for a 1st round pick, but I agree with Ares, he will either be good or not. While your team may not be terrible it still needs alot of help. Wiilliams should be a piece you could trade to that end. If he does not want to give a first then I would hold and hope you can get a good pick early next year, good luck...

I suspect he's never going to pay a first for that guy, not a chance, 27 year old journeyman. LOL. Smart people don't throw away first round picks for guys like that.

[Orenthal Shames]

Is Chad Williams even rosterable in a 14 team league? Him and the 4ths are worthless. I think you can do better.

[jwb32]

That offer is so weak. Easy pass.

[FantasyFreak]

That offer is so weak. Easy pass.

LOL. That's my offer, and I have no other picks. It was made before yesterday, and Williams isn't worth a first, sorry a projected early 2nd plus for a journeyman RB is "so weak." Guess I won't own Williams. People around here seem to think he's the second coming. I just think he's a solid depth back that had a few good games in a potent offense. Guess we'll see.

[The.Big.Spank]

Is Chad Williams even rosterable in a 14 team league? Him and the 4ths are worthless. I think you can do better.

This one. I would sell him, but I would want a late first in a 14 teamer. That is a high price, but a second is usually worthless given the hit rate. Of course there is risk KC brings in another RB and you get nothing for him, but if they don't you got lucky beyond belief. Given each way has risk, I want either a late first or I will take the risk that he gets replaced.

Just throwing him away for Williams and some other garbage would ensure you made the wrong choice.

[FantasyFreak]

Is Chad Williams even rosterable in a 14 team league? Him and the 4ths are worthless. I think you can do better.

This one. I would sell him, but I would want a late first in a 14 teamer. That is a high price, but a second is usually worthless given the hit rate. Of course there is risk KC brings in another RB and you get nothing for him, but if they don't you got lucky beyond belief. Given each way has risk, I want either a late first or I will take the risk that he gets replaced.

Just throwing him away for Williams and some other garbage would ensure you made the wrong choice.

I see that perspective, but as the guy who made the offer, I only have those picks left. Also, it's a 14 team SF/TE premium, so it's really no different than a 12 team standard PPR league in pick value, as QB's and TE's make the extra 2 teams a wash. It could be argued that being SF/TE premium, an early 2nd is actually more like a late first in a 12 team standard format, as at least a few QB's should go in the first round next year, and possibly a TE or two. An early 2nd isn't garbage in that format.

Here is a list of players who were drafted in another SF/TE premium league I'm in AFTER the 14th pick:

Sutton
Gesecki
Ridley
Josh Allen
Anthony Miller
Nyhiem Hines
Pettis
Goedert
Gallup
Tre'quan

Just to name a few. The 2020 class is supposed to be loaded with offensive talent, so I don't think it's a bad offer at all to a team that finished dead last this year.

[The.Big.Spank]

And if you had every 2nd round pick in the 2017 draft your line up would be Mahomes, Schuster, Kamara, Oj, Engram, Mack, et al, but over the course of a decade, second rounders have a 15 percent hit rate, or one player is usually realiably startable.

I take your other points, but since the league is so big, doesn't that make a RB like Williams in the spot he is in more valuable too?

I guess my biggest problem with the trade is I would feel like I gave away a lottery ticket were I knew I had three of the six numbers already, for nothing.