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Sony Michel price check

Postby Dynastydumpsterfire » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:48 pm

Looking to gain shares of Michel. Another young Rb for one of my Wr seems like the thing to do. I also own 1.4 I. 2019. Any ideas?
Team 1 -10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB.-Brady, Stafford, Garoppolo, Ridder
RB.-Chubb, Kamara, Fournette, K Hunt, Z White,
WR.- Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, B Cooks, MVS, Thielen, Marvin Jones, Zay Jones, Skowronek, Velus Jones
TE.- Hurst, Conklin, Schultz, Taysom Hill
K.-Carlson
LB.- Brooks, Loyd
S/CB.- Love, Neal
DL.-Hunter,Hubbard
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24 1 3rd

Team 2 - 10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB- Goff, Stafford
Rb - Taylor ,Harris, Montgomery, Eno Benjamin, J Warren, Burkhead, Jeff Wilson, Brian Robinson, Spiller, C Evans
Wr- AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Mike Williams, Jameson Williams, Lazzard, D Carter, M Jones, J Reynolds, B Cooks, DJ Chark, Calvin Austin, D Bell
TE - Kittle, Higbee, Schultz
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LB - Brooks, Okereke, TJ Watt
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S- C Gardner Johnson, Fitzpatrick.
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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Patsfan86 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:54 pm

Full disclosure Im a Pats fan and Sony owner here so I LOVE michel and am biased but your Wrs are in a weird spot, they are either WAY more valuable than Michel or not even close to Michel. Maybe 1.4 and Baldwin as a start? That may get rejected but I don't think its a horrible start.

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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Patsfan86 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:56 pm

Or do the opposite and trade K Allen for Michel +++ You are still stacked at WR there in a 2WR league

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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby briank » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:26 pm

I wouldn’t be interested in anyone below Thielen for Michel even with the 1.04. Maybe one of your top 5 receivers for Michel+
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QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
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RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby saw061600 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:32 pm

You got to make that sig horizontal instead of vertical.
Agree with some other responses on the idea of trading a WR for Michel plus.
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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Dynastydumpsterfire » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:14 pm

saw061600 wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:32 pm You got to make that sig horizontal instead of vertical.
Agree with some other responses on the idea of trading a WR for Michel plus.
Thanks. Done.
Team 1 -10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB.-Brady, Stafford, Garoppolo, Ridder
RB.-Chubb, Kamara, Fournette, K Hunt, Z White,
WR.- Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, B Cooks, MVS, Thielen, Marvin Jones, Zay Jones, Skowronek, Velus Jones
TE.- Hurst, Conklin, Schultz, Taysom Hill
K.-Carlson
LB.- Brooks, Loyd
S/CB.- Love, Neal
DL.-Hunter,Hubbard
Picks

23 2 3rds
24 1 3rd

Team 2 - 10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB- Goff, Stafford
Rb - Taylor ,Harris, Montgomery, Eno Benjamin, J Warren, Burkhead, Jeff Wilson, Brian Robinson, Spiller, C Evans
Wr- AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Mike Williams, Jameson Williams, Lazzard, D Carter, M Jones, J Reynolds, B Cooks, DJ Chark, Calvin Austin, D Bell
TE - Kittle, Higbee, Schultz
K- McPherson
LB - Brooks, Okereke, TJ Watt
DL- M Garrett, Cam Jordan
S- C Gardner Johnson, Fitzpatrick.
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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Nimrod » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:56 pm

I have been a New England fan for 15 years. I love the team. However I say this to all owners who fall into the new flashy RB trap of the New England system. FANTASY RUNNING BACKS GO TO DIE IN NE! Don’t do it!!!! You will regret it in 2020. The last NE RB to have a top 12 RB finish for 2 years in a row was Corey Dillion.

Don’t buy Michel now. Wait until he wants more money and you start to see the trend of Billacheck moving away from him after he decided he won’t pay Sony as much as he is asking for and eventually he walks.

Sony is a super talented back, but he won’t produce long term in New England. Your betting against 18 years of history if you pay big money for him now now.
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RB: CEH, Hines, Cohen, Evans, Perine,
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TE: Herndon, Njoku, Doyle

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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Titans95 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:49 pm

Thielen or Julio straight up should get the deal done

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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby smoppelpoppel » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:49 pm

Nimrod wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:56 pm I have been a New England fan for 15 years. I love the team. However I say this to all owners who fall into the new flashy RB trap of the New England system. FANTASY RUNNING BACKS GO TO DIE IN NE! Don’t do it!!!! You will regret it in 2020. The last NE RB to have a top 12 RB finish for 2 years in a row was Corey Dillion.

Don’t buy Michel now. Wait until he wants more money and you start to see the trend of Billacheck moving away from him after he decided he won’t pay Sony as much as he is asking for and eventually he walks.

Sony is a super talented back, but he won’t produce long term in New England. Your betting against 18 years of history if you pay big money for him now now.
But how often did they draft a RB in the first round during that span? I think Michel is the attempt to prolong the B/B-dynasty for a bit.
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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Nimrod » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:10 am

smoppelpoppel wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:49 pm
Nimrod wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:56 pm I have been a New England fan for 15 years. I love the team. However I say this to all owners who fall into the new flashy RB trap of the New England system. FANTASY RUNNING BACKS GO TO DIE IN NE! Don’t do it!!!! You will regret it in 2020. The last NE RB to have a top 12 RB finish for 2 years in a row was Corey Dillion.

Don’t buy Michel now. Wait until he wants more money and you start to see the trend of Billacheck moving away from him after he decided he won’t pay Sony as much as he is asking for and eventually he walks.

Sony is a super talented back, but he won’t produce long term in New England. Your betting against 18 years of history if you pay big money for him now now.
But how often did they draft a RB in the first round during that span? I think Michel is the attempt to prolong the B/B-dynasty for a bit.
That’s is the point. Will a RB used to prolong the B/B dynasty be a top 12 fantasy RB? Not if he gets his points on the ground. Sony will need to continue to develop into a exceptional pass catcher to be worth anyone remotely close to Thieilin in the NewEngland system. Again, great talent, wring system. Until New England changes the system, Sony or any RB will never crack the top 12, 2 years in a row. This is just history, watch and see it again
James White only has the year he had because the offense was depleted of pass catching options for the entire season other than Julian Edelman. White has been in the league for 5 years and do people really think he had a “breakout” year? He was in the right place at the right time for season long consistency. Again, unless Sony can catch the ball and gather 50+ receptions, I just don’t see a top 12 performance for more than 1 year. New England moves on from their RBs once they being to demand more money.

And 2006, 1st round pick, Lawrence Moroney. Never had a great fantasy season insignificant after his 3rd year
Team 1

12 team PPR QB 2 RB 2 WR 3 Flex TE DST

QB: Kyler, Cousins, Trubisky
RB: CEH, Hines, Cohen, Evans, Perine,
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Allen Robinson, Gallup, Harry, Kirk
TE: Herndon, Njoku, Doyle

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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby CGW » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:14 am

Nimrod wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:56 pm I have been a New England fan for 15 years. I love the team. However I say this to all owners who fall into the new flashy RB trap of the New England system. FANTASY RUNNING BACKS GO TO DIE IN NE! Don’t do it!!!! You will regret it in 2020. The last NE RB to have a top 12 RB finish for 2 years in a row was Corey Dillion.

Don’t buy Michel now. Wait until he wants more money and you start to see the trend of Billacheck moving away from him after he decided he won’t pay Sony as much as he is asking for and eventually he walks.

Sony is a super talented back, but he won’t produce long term in New England. Your betting against 18 years of history if you pay big money for him now now.
This is excellent advice. The pats also do an excellent job of changing game scripts weekly. Michel will always be battling game script as well as the handful of other options in the backfield. As much as everyone hates it, Belickik has a winning formula and it never includes a 3 down back. I'd use this opportunity as a sell high, just like I would have with Ridley, Gray, Blount, Lewis, and anyone not named James White. Or hold him for the 5% chance Belichik completely changed his coaching philosophy...or retires this year.
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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby briank » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:28 am

Nimrod wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:10 am
smoppelpoppel wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:49 pm
Nimrod wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:56 pm I have been a New England fan for 15 years. I love the team. However I say this to all owners who fall into the new flashy RB trap of the New England system. FANTASY RUNNING BACKS GO TO DIE IN NE! Don’t do it!!!! You will regret it in 2020. The last NE RB to have a top 12 RB finish for 2 years in a row was Corey Dillion.

Don’t buy Michel now. Wait until he wants more money and you start to see the trend of Billacheck moving away from him after he decided he won’t pay Sony as much as he is asking for and eventually he walks.

Sony is a super talented back, but he won’t produce long term in New England. Your betting against 18 years of history if you pay big money for him now now.
But how often did they draft a RB in the first round during that span? I think Michel is the attempt to prolong the B/B-dynasty for a bit.
That’s is the point. Will a RB used to prolong the B/B dynasty be a top 12 fantasy RB? Not if he gets his points on the ground. Sony will need to continue to develop into a exceptional pass catcher to be worth anyone remotely close to Thieilin in the NewEngland system. Again, great talent, wring system. Until New England changes the system, Sony or any RB will never crack the top 12, 2 years in a row. This is just history, watch and see it again
James White only has the year he had because the offense was depleted of pass catching options for the entire season other than Julian Edelman. White has been in the league for 5 years and do people really think he had a “breakout” year? He was in the right place at the right time for season long consistency. Again, unless Sony can catch the ball and gather 50+ receptions, I just don’t see a top 12 performance for more than 1 year. New England moves on from their RBs once they being to demand more money.

And 2006, 1st round pick, Lawrence Moroney. Never had a great fantasy season insignificant after his 3rd year
I’m not sure they’ve had a RB as talented as Michel since Curtis Martin. With the injuries, he didn’t have the time to get worked into the passing game, but he certainly has the skills to do so. I think he will this offseason. That’s not uncommon for rookie RB. Look at Zeke’s progress in the passing game.

Also, this team isn’t led by the goat Tom Brady anymore. It’s led by old man Brady who doesn’t seem to have much left. They are going to need Michel.
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QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
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2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
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TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:14 am

Why are you set on Sony? I like him too but why not go after a higher name (Mixon?) with Julio or Thielen plus the 1.4

The better RB would make your starting lineup unstoppable

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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Dynastydumpsterfire » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:22 am

Jigga94 wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:14 am Why are you set on Sony? I like him too but why not go after a higher name (Mixon?) with Julio or Thielen plus the 1.4

The better RB would make your starting lineup unstoppable
Can a mixon or dalvin cook be had for thielen and 1.4?
Team 1 -10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB.-Brady, Stafford, Garoppolo, Ridder
RB.-Chubb, Kamara, Fournette, K Hunt, Z White,
WR.- Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, B Cooks, MVS, Thielen, Marvin Jones, Zay Jones, Skowronek, Velus Jones
TE.- Hurst, Conklin, Schultz, Taysom Hill
K.-Carlson
LB.- Brooks, Loyd
S/CB.- Love, Neal
DL.-Hunter,Hubbard
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23 2 3rds
24 1 3rd

Team 2 - 10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB- Goff, Stafford
Rb - Taylor ,Harris, Montgomery, Eno Benjamin, J Warren, Burkhead, Jeff Wilson, Brian Robinson, Spiller, C Evans
Wr- AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Mike Williams, Jameson Williams, Lazzard, D Carter, M Jones, J Reynolds, B Cooks, DJ Chark, Calvin Austin, D Bell
TE - Kittle, Higbee, Schultz
K- McPherson
LB - Brooks, Okereke, TJ Watt
DL- M Garrett, Cam Jordan
S- C Gardner Johnson, Fitzpatrick.
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Re: Sony Michel price check

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:33 am

Dynastydumpsterfire wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:22 am
Jigga94 wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:14 am Why are you set on Sony? I like him too but why not go after a higher name (Mixon?) with Julio or Thielen plus the 1.4

The better RB would make your starting lineup unstoppable
Can a mixon or dalvin cook be had for thielen and 1.4?
Don't see why not. The worst that could happen is that it gets declined


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