Head scratcher trade in my league....

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Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby playa_hata » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:36 pm

So im having a hard time wrapping my head around this trade along with another one. The team is completely depleted of assets as the guy made a string of bad trades and just continues to do so... 12 team PPR superflex start 9 (1qb 2rb 3wr 1te 1SF 1Flex). Thinking of putting it up to vote to replace him in our league but he blew up his roster so badly that no one would pay to take it over so im going to have to give some crazy deal on it or find someone looking for a SERIOUS rebuild challenge.

Trade 1

Give: 2019 1.02, 2020 (99% chance at being 1.01 at BEST 1.02 the roster is just that bad)

Get: 2019 1.01, 2019 3.01

Trade 2

Give: Corey Davis (his only remaining valuable asset besides picks that he just traded away)

Get: Sterling shepard, 2.09

Edit* figured i should post this to show how badly his team got ripped apart

Team right after draft
Jimmy G, Rivers, Keenum
CMC, leveon bell, crowell
Dez, Jordy, martavis, amendola, tedd ginn (basically all awful wr)
Kelce


Roster now at seasons end

Jimmy G, Beathard, Fitzpatrick, Kessler, Taysom Hill, Gabbert
cj anderson, blount, blue, crowell, hines, riddick, wilkins
curtis samuel, sterling shepard, amendola, doctson, gabriel, bourne, goodwin, humphries, moncrief, jmon moore
goedert, herndon
2019 1.01, 1.09, 2.09, 2.12
2020 (no first) 2nd, 3rd, 4th.
Last edited by playa_hata on Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)

TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby LMS123 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:52 pm

Maybe they’re trying to make like realistic actual NFL type trades and not thinking of it in fantasy terms?

For trade 1 I mean maybe if they’re absurdly high on one player. (like I would have made that deal if it got me Saquon last year)

Trade 2, if they’re a person who has jumper shipped on the Davis train and tried to dump him before they thought his value would depreciate more I could see it too

Not saying I agree with either, but just trying to present a case for the thinking behind it
Jake Fromm State Farm (12 team PPR SF)
QB: Purdy, ARich (T), Levis (T), Bagent, Clifford, Hall, White, Fromm
RB: Roschon (T), Allgeier, Hill, McIntosh, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell
Chestnut (IR), Wilson (IR)
WR: Addison, London, Jmo (T), Shaheed, Reed (T), Pop D, Der. Davis, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Watson, Austin (T)
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (T), Trautman, Gray, Moreau
2024: 1.01, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3
2025: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4

Sleeper (.5 PPR, 1.5 TE PPR, SF)
QB: Tua, Fields, Cousins (IR), Dobbs, Bagent, Devito, White, Walker, Lance, Hall
RB: Hall, JT, White, Javonte, Ford, Kendre, Allgeier, Henderson, Akers (IR), Ingram (T), Hull (T)
WR: Jetts (IR), Devonta, Jeudy, Meyers, Mooney, Guyton, Rondale, J. Palmer (IR), T. Palmer (T), C. Jones (T)
TE: Andrews (IR), Likely
2024: 5
2025: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby Ioverpayforrookies » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:12 am

What's the rest of his roster?
Team 1:
10 team, .5 ppr, 30 man roster - 2 QB, 3 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 1 W/R Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins,Winston, Foles, Finley
WR: Julio, Hilton, Edelman Woods, Landry, M. Williams, A. Robinson, Harmon, Meyers, Butler
RB: Gurley, D. Cook, Mack Lindsay, Mixon, Hines, Jon. Williams
TE: Hooper, Everett, Eifert, Irv, I. Thomas

Team 2:
10 team, .5 ppr, 45 man roster, 1QB, 3 RB, 5 WR, 2 TE 1 W/R/T flex, 1 SF, 1 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 2 CB, 2 S, 1 DEF Flex
QB:Brady, Darnold Goff, Foles, Finley
WR: Godwin, Edelman, Kirk, Hilton, Landry, J. Brown A. Miller, MVS, Cobb, AB, Harmon
RB:Gurley, D. Freeman, A. Jones Sanders, Jon. Williams, L. Miller, Ajayi, K. Hunt
TE:Waller, Rudolph Graham, Fells
DT:Phillips
DE:Campbell, R. Quinnp
LB:Leonard, Deion Jones, Barrett, R. Evans/b]
CB:L. Ryan, Jenkins
S:D. James, Simmonsr

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby mariettajeff » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:17 am

Is this Jon Gruden's team?
Team 1 Richard Cranium 2015 & 2016 Champion 16 teams 1 PPR 1 QB\1 RB \2 WR \ 1 RB/WR\ 1 TE
Wilson, Mahomes
Gurley, David Johnson, Jonathan Taylor, Darrell Henderson
OBJ, Cooks, Fuller, M. Williams, Courtland Sutton, A.J. Brown
Kelce, Dissly
Butker
Balt, Jets

Team 2 Crushing Steelers 12 teams 1PPR 1QB\2RB\2WR\1TE\1 RB-WR\ 2 I
Allen, Garropolo, Goff
Mixon, Chubb, Mack, Drake,
OBJ, Cooks, Hopkins, Kirk, Miller, A.J. Brown
Goedert, Hockerson, Fant
Gay
Chicago, SF, Pitt
Lavonte David, Warner, Hicks

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:31 am

You know what if he keeps doing it you gotta start vetoing his trades or kick him out lol

Both trades should get vetoed , I can see trade 1 being ok if it was 2018 and Barkley was there but I don't think there is a Barkley type in this draft ?
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:56 am

Bad trades. Neither are veto worthy. Just an uninformed owner. Show him this site

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby UsualSuspects » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:06 am

Are these trades that is offering up?
Or is he the recipient of these trade offers?
Potentially two different problems.
12 Team PPR - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd ‘19 3rd ‘20 5th ‘21 3rd ‘22 7th ‘23 1st
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- PPR- All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Team 2-
12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Charbonnett, Roschon, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DHop, DaVante Adams, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 4.03
2025 picks 2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4
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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:08 am

I have a question , Is he making bad trades to everyone in the league or just 1 person ?
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby jwb32 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:20 am

The main issue I see with trade 1 is if/when he bails on the league, it will be very difficult to find a new owner. No one wants to take a team with little talent and no picks. At the very least, he should pay league dues for 2020 in advance. But this is definitely a very bad trade with no upside.

I don't like trade 2, but its not a team wrecker.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:24 am

jwb32 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:20 am The main issue I see with trade 1 is if/when he bails on the league, it will be very difficult to find a new owner. No one wants to take a team with little talent and no picks. At the very least, he should pay league dues for 2020 in advance. But this is definitely a very bad trade with no upside.

I don't like trade 2, but its not a team wrecker.
Good point about paying for 2020 , That's how my leagues work if we trade future picks we have to pay for that year.
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby The.Big.Spank » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am

Trade 1 is awful. Trade 2 is a bad one, but not on the scale of the first one. If he pays his dues, sets his line up, responds to trades and is an active owner, then all of that is a teaching moment. Take his cash and beat his a$$.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:59 am

Trade 1 is bad neither is worth being kicked out of the league are vetoed though. However you said this was a string of behavior so if you want your league to be 100% competitive than sure you could find a new member. I would say though as long as he's cool sucking every year and hes making bad trades with everyone who cares let him suck. You might be upset because you never offered this guy any trades. I usually let other owners know,if I think they've made a ton of mistakes and let them know he better not quit because his team blows.
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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby playa_hata » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:39 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:56 am Bad trades. Neither are veto worthy. Just an uninformed owner. Show him this site
i have shown him this site told him to make a profile along with other forums to post trade advice. he just doesnt learn.
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)

TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby playa_hata » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:57 pm

Ioverpayforrookies wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:12 am What's the rest of his roster?
here is his roster right after draft and then now at season end. ( wont list full 25 but just players worthy of noting)

Team right after draft
Jimmy G, Rivers, Keenum
CMC, leveon bell, crowell
Dez, Jordy, martavis, amendola, tedd ginn (basically all awful wr)
Kelce


Roster now at seasons end

Jimmy G, Beathard, Fitzpatrick, Kessler, Taysom Hill, Gabbert
cj anderson, blount, blue, crowell, hines, riddick, wilkins
curtis samuel, sterling shepard, amendola, doctson, gabriel, bourne, goodwin, humphries, moncrief, jmon moore
goedert, herndon
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)

TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton

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Re: Head scratcher trade in my league....

Postby dizzler » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:07 pm

Neither kick worthy. Veto worthy I still don't think so.

Scenario to think about: Maybe he was in talks with the previous 1.01 owner and he has a sure player he wants at 1.02. 1.01 owner says he wants the same guy. 1.02 owner overpays so he makes sure he gets that player. Bad trade - absolutely. But still a realistic scenario to consider in this.

In 2017 - I had the 1.06, 1.08. I wanted Hunt and Kamara. 1.07 owner wanted Zay Jones. I pretended that I was taking Zay to trade bait him.. He overpaid me for the 1.06 and I still got the 2 guys that I was targeting. Sometimes you just gotta bs the bs'er.
Team 1 - Super Kamario Bros (12 Team - PPR) ( QB -1 , RB -2 , WR - 2, Te -1, FLX - 1, SuperFLX - 1, DP - 2, K- 1)
QB -Wentz, Newton, Ryan, Haskins (R)
RB -Zeke, Kamara, Drake, Ballage; Thompson, Ajayi
WR - D Hopkins, Julio, A. Miller, Coutee, AJ Brown (R) , Marvin Jones, Mclaurin (R),
Te -Delanie, Ebron, Oliver (R)
2020:3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5
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Kerryon Luggage (12 Team - 2TE PPR) ( QB -1 , RB -2 , WR - 2, Te -2, FLX - 1, SuperFLX - 1, DP - 2, K- 1)
QB - Jimmy G, Josh Allen, Mariota
RB - Kerryon, Jamaal Will, Drake, Ballage, Miles Sanders (R), Justice Hill (R), Myles Gaskins (R)
Wr - Micheal Thomas, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Crowder, Coutee, Aj Brown (R), Marquise Brown (R), Keesean Johnson (R), Kelvin Harmon (R)
Te- Engram, Oj Howard, Josh Oliver (R)
2020: 3,3,3, 5


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