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Sammy , Shepard

Postby AresGodOWar » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:27 pm

What's their values in this years draft picks each ?
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:28 pm

Sammy could possibly still fetch a late 1st, Shephard is an early 2nd for me.

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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby AresGodOWar » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:32 pm

Sounds good thank you
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am

id still want a high first for sammy hes still young and tied to mahomes arm for the next few years.

shep i would want like two 2nds idk he jsut doesnt get my juices flowing at all and think that he would be on my bench any good game he should have.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby The.Big.Spank » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:33 am

Depends on the size of the league. In a 10 teamer both rise to the level of a "meh flex" starting option, so no for me, but barely a no because I trust my rookie evaluation skills. In a 16 teamer I would pay that price stated above, late first for sammy and a second for sterling.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:35 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am id still want a high first for sammy hes still young and tied to mahomes arm for the next few years.

shep i would want like two 2nds idk he jsut doesnt get my juices flowing at all and think that he would be on my bench any good game he should have.
Yeah I think I should keep Sammy and Mahomes combo I kinda like having a QB/WR combo..

You don't think Shepard is a nice hold with OBJ always getting hurt and in trouble with the team maybe they let him go sooner or later lol ?
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby The.Big.Spank » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:40 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am id still want a high first for sammy hes still young and tied to mahomes arm for the next few years.

shep i would want like two 2nds idk he jsut doesnt get my juices flowing at all and think that he would be on my bench any good game he should have.
I disagree on Sammy. He has had two healthy years with a high powered, high passing offense and his production has been meh. Then there was all the injury baggage before that, so no way do I pay a high first for him. If by high you mean at the top of the draft.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby Ktmjelde » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:54 am

I shipped Sammy off for a 2020 1st and a 2019 2nd... Tired of waiting for him to emerge...
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QB (1): T. Lawrence R. Wilson, B. Young, S. Howell, D. Mills
RB (2-3): B. Robinson, N. Chubb, R. White, D. Pierce, C. Patterson, C. Edmonds, M. Carter, J. Warren, S. Conner, C. Brown
WR (3-4): D. Adams, J. Waddle, D. London, C. Olave, Calvin Ridley, J. Williams, C. Watson, E. Moore, K. Toney, J, L. Shenault, R. Moore, M Mims, J. Reed
TE (1-2): K. Pitts, S. Laporra, Cole Kmet,
DL (2-3): M. Parsons, TJ Watt, A Hutchinson, G. Karlaftis
LB (2-3): CJ Mosley, L. Vander Esch, Q. Williams
DB (2-3): D. James, K. Byard, J. Bates, T. Rapp, X.McKinney. D. Wilson

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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby IR1 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:39 am

Sammy was dropped in my league late last season, I picked him up hoping to use him in a consolidation trade, I'd hold if you have deep benches
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:49 am

I would value both around an early/mid 2nd.
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:02 pm

The.Big.Spank wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:40 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am id still want a high first for sammy hes still young and tied to mahomes arm for the next few years.

shep i would want like two 2nds idk he jsut doesnt get my juices flowing at all and think that he would be on my bench any good game he should have.
I disagree on Sammy. He has had two healthy years with a high powered, high passing offense and his production has been meh. Then there was all the injury baggage before that, so no way do I pay a high first for him. If by high you mean at the top of the draft.
Except he was very productive when healthy, in KC this year. He was consistently startable as a high floor WR2/3. He played in 8 healthy games and was on pace for 78/1020/6 from that half season worth of games.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
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MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby Titans95 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:11 pm

AresGodOWar wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:35 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am id still want a high first for sammy hes still young and tied to mahomes arm for the next few years.

shep i would want like two 2nds idk he jsut doesnt get my juices flowing at all and think that he would be on my bench any good game he should have.
Yeah I think I should keep Sammy and Mahomes combo I kinda like having a QB/WR combo..

You don't think Shepard is a nice hold with OBJ always getting hurt and in trouble with the team maybe they let him go sooner or later lol ?
Well They just signed him to a 5 year deal making him the highest paid WR in the league so they aren't moving him anytime soon. Also I think it's unfair to count 2017 season against OBJ, what player wouldn't have been hurt from a tackle like that? So far his only injuries to date was his hamstring or ankle (can't remember) that caused him to miss 4 games his rookie season and his quad that he missed 4 games this season, other than that he's been perfectly healthy as far as NFL players go so I wouldn't bump shepherds value because of a chance OBJ gets injured.

I think anyone wanting an early or even mid 1st for Sammy is dreaming because no one who doesn't already own him will pay up for that BUT I do think like Bawse said he's still only 25 years old and his first year in a new system and was a very servicable Wr2/3 when on the field. He could very well take a big leap forward in 2019 so I'd just hold since you won't get that upside value he deserves.

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Re: Sammy , Shepard

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:25 pm

I think Shepard could be a good buy because he'll be a FA after next year, and won't be stuck behind OBJ/Barkley and competing with Engram as well. I'd rather have him than Watkins, I'd say late first for Step, early 2nd for Watkins.
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