CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby FantasyFreakGuru » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:11 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:03 pm I think you should have gotten a better package.
I believe you're the guy who said I got ripped off when I traded Dak/Trequan Smith for Amari/Keenum (when i already had Mayfield, Allen, Winston).. I jumped from 5th in that league to 3rd! (Top 4 payout no playoffs)...

I'll have to dig thru some old posts but I believe you also disliked my trade I made after NFL draft last year. I traded away Penny/Rudolph for Kittle/Cohen. That paid off great!!!!! lol

Moral of the story, dynasty trades can fluctuate day to day- week to week- year to year. We'll follow up on this one 1 year from now :)
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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:43 pm

Just because it worked out in the end doesn't mean you couldn't have done better at the time.

Also, you said CMC will be useless by the time you want to compete... When do you plan on competing? Lol 2025? CMC is 22 going on 23 before the season starts

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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby FantasyFreakGuru » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:55 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:43 pm Just because it worked out in the end doesn't mean you couldn't have done better at the time.

Also, you said CMC will be useless by the time you want to compete... When do you plan on competing? Lol 2025? CMC is 22 going on 23 before the season starts
Depends on when you think this team is beatable (bearing injuries)

Watson, Mayfield

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Davis, Hopkins, Mike Williams, Keke Coutee

Kittle, Ebron, Engram LOL

I joined the league last year.. hes won 3 years in a row, except for last year he got beat by...

Brady/Goff

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DYNASTY GIANTS - 1pt PPR League Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex (WR/RB/TE) K, D
Team Name: Keep It Green

QB-Cam Newton, Marcus Mariota
RB- Christian McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, Tarik Cohen, Adrian Peterson, Peyton Barber
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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby The.Big.Spank » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:56 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:18 pm
The.Big.Spank wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:51 pm I like it and would have done it as well. Until proven otherwise, Cooper is a WR1, Mack is explosive and looking good in a great offense and you get a 2020 to add (possibly another stud running back).

You could make a case that is getting the value of 4 first round picks (Cooper 2, Mack 1, + pick) for a pint sized RB, albiet a good one.

I bristle at the CMC is elite tag, but he did have a great year. I just dont seem him producing it consistently like a Gurley or Elliott.
I think you're being a prisoner of the moment. Both have a long track record of being inconsistent. Very slick move by the other owner to package both plus an unknown pick for an elite asset.
I cannot hold Mack's 2017 campaign against him. Crappy qb, super crappy OL in an unbalanced attack while splitting time with Gore for some strange reason. I would not lable Mack inconsistent.

Cooper has 3 1000 yard seasons, but I totally get and lean toward "inconsistent" with him. I don't think he was so inconsistent as was his offensive play calling. The Raiders were a true mystery about their usage of him, plus he had some knee issues during his down time, but fair enough. I think in his new situation he is going to be a beast.

Sorry, I disagree with all of you. It was not a bad or lopsided trade at all.
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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby FantasyFreakGuru » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:59 pm

The.Big.Spank wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:56 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:18 pm
The.Big.Spank wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:51 pm I like it and would have done it as well. Until proven otherwise, Cooper is a WR1, Mack is explosive and looking good in a great offense and you get a 2020 to add (possibly another stud running back).

You could make a case that is getting the value of 4 first round picks (Cooper 2, Mack 1, + pick) for a pint sized RB, albiet a good one.

I bristle at the CMC is elite tag, but he did have a great year. I just dont seem him producing it consistently like a Gurley or Elliott.
I think you're being a prisoner of the moment. Both have a long track record of being inconsistent. Very slick move by the other owner to package both plus an unknown pick for an elite asset.
I cannot hold Mack's 2017 campaign against him. Crappy qb, super crappy OL in an unbalanced attack while splitting time with Gore for some strange reason. I would not lable Mack inconsistent.

Cooper has 3 1000 yard seasons, but I totally get and lean toward "inconsistent" with him. I don't think he was so inconsistent as was his offensive play calling. The Raiders were a true mystery about their usage of him, plus he had some knee issues during his down time, but fair enough. I think in his new situation he is going to be a beast.

Sorry, I disagree with all of you. It was not a bad or lopsided trade at all.
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RB- Christian McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, Tarik Cohen, Adrian Peterson, Peyton Barber
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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby The.Big.Spank » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:05 pm

I've noticed that too. Problem is that that when I disagree with the forum they are right about 50% and I am right about 50% of the time.

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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby Goddard » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:30 pm

FantasyFreakGuru wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:11 pm
Goddard wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:03 pm I think you should have gotten a better package.
I believe you're the guy who said I got ripped off when I traded Dak/Trequan Smith for Amari/Keenum (when i already had Mayfield, Allen, Winston).. I jumped from 5th in that league to 3rd! (Top 4 payout no playoffs)...

I'll have to dig thru some old posts but I believe you also disliked my trade I made after NFL draft last year. I traded away Penny/Rudolph for Kittle/Cohen. That paid off great!!!!! lol

Moral of the story, dynasty trades can fluctuate day to day- week to week- year to year. We'll follow up on this one 1 year from now :)
Still don't like the Dak trade. Don't remember the Kittle one, but I'm sure at the time it was probably a bad trade and you still could have gotten more. Moral of the story, even bad trades end up looking good down the road. As for this trade right now, it's bad...could it end up being good? Sure. But you can say that about every single trade. Also, not sure why you're posting them after making the trade and then getting upset if people don't like it. Not sure the purpose of the trades. If you're just looking for someone to pat you on the back and say you did great, not sure this is the forum for it. Good luck!

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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby FantasyFreakGuru » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:46 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:30 pm
FantasyFreakGuru wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:11 pm
Goddard wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:03 pm I think you should have gotten a better package.
I believe you're the guy who said I got ripped off when I traded Dak/Trequan Smith for Amari/Keenum (when i already had Mayfield, Allen, Winston).. I jumped from 5th in that league to 3rd! (Top 4 payout no playoffs)...

I'll have to dig thru some old posts but I believe you also disliked my trade I made after NFL draft last year. I traded away Penny/Rudolph for Kittle/Cohen. That paid off great!!!!! lol

Moral of the story, dynasty trades can fluctuate day to day- week to week- year to year. We'll follow up on this one 1 year from now :)
Still don't like the Dak trade. Don't remember the Kittle one, but I'm sure at the time it was probably a bad trade and you still could have gotten more. Moral of the story, even bad trades end up looking good down the road. As for this trade right now, it's bad...could it end up being good? Sure. But you can say that about every single trade. Also, not sure why you're posting them after making the trade and then getting upset if people don't like it. Not sure the purpose of the trades. If you're just looking for someone to pat you on the back and say you did great, not sure this is the forum for it. Good luck!
Gotta love the internet, text, writing taken out of context, and others implementing false feelings lol. Where did I get upset? I'm just discussing, which forums are for. Thats called "assuming" which makes an bleep out of "You" and "Me". Cheers

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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:40 pm

I like it. CMC is maxed out. I don't see those numbers repeating. I see Mack continuing to produce, and Cooper to have the best year of his career with a full off season in Dallas, and a team willing to target him. Make the right move with the 1.04, and this trade is in your favour.
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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby PercyR1 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:37 pm

Puke, Amari SUCKS i still cant believe Amari cooper is a "thing"

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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby FantasyFreakGuru » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:50 pm

PercyR1 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:37 pm Puke, Amari SUCKS i still cant believe Amari cooper is a "thing"
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DYNASTY GIANTS - 1pt PPR League Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex (WR/RB/TE) K, D
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QB-Cam Newton, Marcus Mariota
RB- Christian McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, Tarik Cohen, Adrian Peterson, Peyton Barber
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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby The.Big.Spank » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:48 pm

PercyR1 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:37 pm Puke, Amari SUCKS i still cant believe Amari cooper is a "thing"
ridicilious. He sucks? If you want to say that about Josh Gordon, fine, but a 25 year old with 3 1000 yard seasons and is the clear #1 on a team is a asset you have no use for huh?
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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
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Re: CMC for 2020 1st, Amari Cooper & Marlon Mack

Postby FantasyFreakGuru » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:49 am

Just move aaron jones/tyreek for Gurley.

Gurley, mack, cooper 2020 1st looks feels much better then cmc, Jones, tyreek.
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DYNASTY GIANTS - 1pt PPR League Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex (WR/RB/TE) K, D
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QB-Cam Newton, Marcus Mariota
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WR- Keenan Allen, Tyreek Hill, Doug Baldwin, Nelson Agholor, Marvin Jones, Dede Westbrook, John Brown, Taywan Taylor
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