David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:25 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:16 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:59 am Cook more or less = Johnson
Golladay > 1.08 + 1.09

I'd pass. Keep Cook + Golladay.


I think you can get Freeman for just the 1st. His value is low right now.
Even if one of the firsts becomes freeman? Chubb, Johnson and Freeman would be a pretty good stable of running backs (plus I have Ito Smith). It would also allow me to potentially draft the best receiver with the second pick or trade the second pick for a top tier receiver.
Yes. Golladay > Freeman + late 1st
Well I took the trade and then made two more trades. In the end this is what I was able to get in the three trades:

I lost
Cook
Golladay
2019 2nd overall
2019 8th overall
2019 17th overall ***Sorry forgot pick 17 was involved***

I received
DeAndre Hopkins
David Johnson
Devonta Freeman
two 2020 first round picks (I think there are better players in the 2020 draft)
Last edited by ThatGuyBrian on Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

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QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:37 pm

Nice work on the flip trades!

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:40 pm

Cook >= Johnson
1.08 = Freeman
1.02 + 1.08 more or less = two 2020 1sts

Not sure what the exact deals were, but you basically upgraded from Golladay to Hopkins for free... :wtf: :clap:
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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby jwb32 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:43 pm

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:25 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:16 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
Even if one of the firsts becomes freeman? Chubb, Johnson and Freeman would be a pretty good stable of running backs (plus I have Ito Smith). It would also allow me to potentially draft the best receiver with the second pick or trade the second pick for a top tier receiver.
Yes. Golladay > Freeman + late 1st
Well I took the trade and then made two more trades. In the end this is what I was able to get in the three trades:

I lost
Cook
Golladay
2019 2nd overall
2019 8th overall

I received
DeAndre Hopkins
David Johnson
Devonta Freeman
two 2020 first round picks (I think there are better players in the 2020 draft)
Hopkins??? Huh? I've tried over and over but I cannot reconcile the two sides. Just out of curiosity, can you post the individual trades?
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby briank » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:50 pm

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:25 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:16 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
Even if one of the firsts becomes freeman? Chubb, Johnson and Freeman would be a pretty good stable of running backs (plus I have Ito Smith). It would also allow me to potentially draft the best receiver with the second pick or trade the second pick for a top tier receiver.
Yes. Golladay > Freeman + late 1st
Well I took the trade and then made two more trades. In the end this is what I was able to get in the three trades:

I lost
Cook
Golladay
2019 2nd overall
2019 8th overall

I received
DeAndre Hopkins
David Johnson
Devonta Freeman
two 2020 first round picks (I think there are better players in the 2020 draft)
Huge win.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:58 pm

jwb32 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:43 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:25 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:16 pm
Yes. Golladay > Freeman + late 1st
Well I took the trade and then made two more trades. In the end this is what I was able to get in the three trades:

I lost
Cook
Golladay
2019 2nd overall
2019 8th overall
2019 17th overall ***Sorry forgot pick 17 was involved***

I received
DeAndre Hopkins
David Johnson
Devonta Freeman
two 2020 first round picks (I think there are better players in the 2020 draft)
Hopkins??? Huh? I've tried over and over but I cannot reconcile the two sides. Just out of curiosity, can you post the individual trades?
Well in the Johnson/Golladay/Cook trade I told him I wasn't going to do it then he threw the two 2020 picks at me and I was like, ok. That trade was this:
Golladay, Cook for Johnson, 2019 8th overall pick, 2019 9th overall pick, and the two 2020 firsts

Then I told the owner of Devonta Freeman that I wanted him, and that I would send the 2019 8th pick for him. He agreed and the trade was accepted
2019 8th overall pick and 2109 pick 17 for Devonte Freeman ***Sorry forgot pick 17 was involved***

A couple minutes later the hopkins owner told me a made some nice trades and that he was interested in moving Hopkins. So I sent him an the trade offer of 2019 2nd overall pick for Hopkins totally expecting to get rejected but wanted to use it as a starting point on a trade.
After lunch I saw the trade was approved with a message saying "Nice trade!" Soooo...
2019 2nd overall pick for Hopkins
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:01 pm

The Hopkins trade is absurd and a huge win for you!! That owner must really want Harry, Metcalf, Anderson or Montgomery...yikes

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:03 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:01 pm The Hopkins trade is absurd and a huge win for you!! That owner must really want Harry, Metcalf, Anderson or Montgomery...yikes
I honestly didn't expect for the trade to be approved and expected some kind of counter offer but there wasn't anything. What do you do in that situation but just say ok and move on :wave: .
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby jwb32 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:06 pm

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:58 pm
jwb32 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:43 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:25 pm
Well I took the trade and then made two more trades. In the end this is what I was able to get in the three trades:

I lost
Cook
Golladay
2019 2nd overall
2019 8th overall
2019 17th overall ***Sorry forgot pick 17 was involved***

I received
DeAndre Hopkins
David Johnson
Devonta Freeman
two 2020 first round picks (I think there are better players in the 2020 draft)
Hopkins??? Huh? I've tried over and over but I cannot reconcile the two sides. Just out of curiosity, can you post the individual trades?
Well in the Johnson/Golladay/Cook trade I told him I wasn't going to do it then he threw the two 2020 picks at me and I was like, ok. That trade was this:
Golladay, Cook for Johnson, 2019 8th overall pick, 2019 9th overall pick, and the two 2020 firsts

Then I told the owner of Devonta Freeman that I wanted him, and that I would send the 2019 8th pick for him. He agreed and the trade was accepted
2019 8th overall pick and 2109 pick 17 for Devonte Freeman ***Sorry forgot pick 17 was involved***

A couple minutes later the hopkins owner told me a made some nice trades and that he was interested in moving Hopkins. So I sent him an the trade offer of 2019 2nd overall pick for Hopkins totally expecting to get rejected but wanted to use it as a starting point on a trade.
After lunch I saw the trade was approved with a message saying "Nice trade!" Soooo...
2019 2nd overall pick for Hopkins
Hopkins for the 1.02? Wow....your league mates will be p*ssed. Earlier today I considered sending an offer of Cooks+1.02+2.02 for Hopkins but decided there was no shot of it being accepted so I didn't bother. I guess you never know!
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:10 pm

jwb32 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:06 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:58 pm
jwb32 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:43 pm
Hopkins??? Huh? I've tried over and over but I cannot reconcile the two sides. Just out of curiosity, can you post the individual trades?
Well in the Johnson/Golladay/Cook trade I told him I wasn't going to do it then he threw the two 2020 picks at me and I was like, ok. That trade was this:
Golladay, Cook for Johnson, 2019 8th overall pick, 2019 9th overall pick, and the two 2020 firsts

Then I told the owner of Devonta Freeman that I wanted him, and that I would send the 2019 8th pick for him. He agreed and the trade was accepted
2019 8th overall pick and 2109 pick 17 for Devonte Freeman ***Sorry forgot pick 17 was involved***

A couple minutes later the hopkins owner told me a made some nice trades and that he was interested in moving Hopkins. So I sent him an the trade offer of 2019 2nd overall pick for Hopkins totally expecting to get rejected but wanted to use it as a starting point on a trade.
After lunch I saw the trade was approved with a message saying "Nice trade!" Soooo...
2019 2nd overall pick for Hopkins
Hopkins for the 1.02? Wow....your league mates will be p*ssed. Earlier today I considered sending an offer of Cooks+1.02+2.02 for Hopkins but decided there was no shot of it being accepted so I didn't bother. I guess you never know!
Like I said it surprised me as well. This is the guys first year in dynasty so I think he maybe using keeper league values or something, I don't know.
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: David Johnson and Pick for Cook and Golladay

Postby RedBengal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:17 pm

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:25 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:16 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
Even if one of the firsts becomes freeman? Chubb, Johnson and Freeman would be a pretty good stable of running backs (plus I have Ito Smith). It would also allow me to potentially draft the best receiver with the second pick or trade the second pick for a top tier receiver.
Yes. Golladay > Freeman + late 1st
Well I took the trade and then made two more trades. In the end this is what I was able to get in the three trades:

I lost
Cook
Golladay
2019 2nd overall
2019 8th overall
2019 17th overall ***Sorry forgot pick 17 was involved***

I received
DeAndre Hopkins
David Johnson
Devonta Freeman
two 2020 first round picks (I think there are better players in the 2020 draft)
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