Mahomes value - 1 QB league

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Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby Duke Nuk’em » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:48 pm

In a league with one starting QB, what is Mahomes' value? I'm interested in hearing what he's worth in terms of players? Which RBs and/or WRs would you be happy with in order to trade Mahomes away.

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Mahomes, Dak
Hopkins, Allen, Diggs, MVS, Tre'Quan Smith
Gordon, Michel, Kerryon Johnson, Ito Smith, Derrick Henry, Guice, Hunt
Gronk, Goedert

K. Allen, plus possibly Hopkins or Gordon, will have to be cut due to my salary cap situation.

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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:53 pm

Probably like a Landry,Guice, Golladay type. I'd say something around 2 firsts

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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby badbuddah » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:54 pm

I offered Juju and was turned down. I think most on this forum would put his value below that, however his owners likely value him higher than what the "real" value might be.
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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby Goddard » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:03 pm

Juju is definitely worth more. I'm not sure which players to compare him to, but he's probably worth the 1.01, if not more, even in a 1QB league.

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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:17 pm

badbuddah wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:54 pm I offered Juju and was turned down. I think most on this forum would put his value below that, however his owners likely value him higher than what the "real" value might be.
That's nuts. I'm as big a Mahomes fan as there is, but even I would take JuJu straight up in 1QB.
Goddard wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:03 pm I'm not sure which players to compare him to, but he's probably worth the 1.01, if not more, even in a 1QB league.
x2 Mahomes is a true difference maker in a position where not much separates QB2-QB15.
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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby badbuddah » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:20 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:17 pm
badbuddah wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:54 pm I offered Juju and was turned down. I think most on this forum would put his value below that, however his owners likely value him higher than what the "real" value might be.
That's nuts. I'm as big a Mahomes fan as there is, but even I would take JuJu straight up in 1QB.
Goddard wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:03 pm I'm not sure which players to compare him to, but he's probably worth the 1.01, if not more, even in a 1QB league.
x2 Mahomes is a true difference maker in a position where not much separates QB2-QB15.
Well I wasn't sure how luck was gonna come back with the shoulder, and I think Mahomes was averaging 38 ppg in the first 3 weeks. I actually had even more WR depth at the start of the season believe it or not. Knowing what I know now I wouldn't do that trade since Luck seems fine. Still though he will command a hefty price. He is super young in a very explosive offense, I don't see him falling off or anything. He should be top 5 at minimum for many years to come.
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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:34 pm

To me the determination on his value comes down to how you think he will be moving forward, if you think he keeps up this him and then everyone else pace he as this year. he's comparable to having a legit stud at another position if you think he'll regress(in the broadest sense of the term just to something that isn't this record shattering pace) he's still worth of a top 4 round selection in startup pushing into top 3 round

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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby XclickX » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:03 pm

6 points for td pass I probably wouldn’t trade him unless I received a top 24 start-up player. 4 points for td pass and I’d take less like what was mentioned above. Landry, Guice Golladay etc.

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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby vixen » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:29 pm

6pt passing TDs increases Mahomes value
i have Mahomes in league 1 below, i love JuJu, but in my case, i would need a QB added in the deal or i would have to reject...
so, without knowing his other QB, i could understand...
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DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby keebs3 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:51 pm

I think Mahomes will come back down to earth a bit next year. Some of the throws he's making just can't continue to go his way forever. His interception rate will go up. But I do believe he's a huge difference maker and the QB to own.
I'd still take Juju over him- but I'd say he's in the Landry/Cooper range. Maybe Phillip Lindsay range.
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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby Go Bucks » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:58 pm

keebs3 wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:51 pm I think Mahomes will come back down to earth a bit next year. Some of the throws he's making just can't continue to go his way forever. His interception rate will go up. But I do believe he's a huge difference maker and the QB to own.
I'd still take Juju over him- but I'd say he's in the Landry/Cooper range. Maybe Phillip Lindsay range.
Nobody in their right mind is trading Mahomes for Lindsay. No matter how desperate they might be at RB. Would be an idiotic short-sighted decision.

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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby keebs3 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:46 pm

Go Bucks wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:58 pm
keebs3 wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:51 pm I think Mahomes will come back down to earth a bit next year. Some of the throws he's making just can't continue to go his way forever. His interception rate will go up. But I do believe he's a huge difference maker and the QB to own.
I'd still take Juju over him- but I'd say he's in the Landry/Cooper range. Maybe Phillip Lindsay range.
Nobody in their right mind is trading Mahomes for Lindsay. No matter how desperate they might be at RB. Would be an idiotic short-sighted decision.
While I tend to get in trouble on this site when I bring up dynasty rankings- they are fairly close. DFL has Mahomes at 41 and Lindsay at 47. Things change way to fast in this league to say anything is idiotic when they are ranked even in the same ballpark. I was giving an option at RB that would be close on paper. Just depends if you think Lindsay can maintain this after 2018. The others being Guice, Jones, Kerryon, Dalvin depending on which way you go up or down the rankings.
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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby dblj1199 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:57 pm

I was able to add him on the cheap pre season, post rookie draft. I traded A Callaway for him straight up, it was a Cleveland fan. Now knowing that I potentially have a elite qbs for the next 12-15 years I’d need a top player. Right now it’s simply start him and worry about his 1 bye week a year. Even with the lose of Hunt he still has a solid core around him. I’d want a top flight player in return, if not roll him out for the next 10 years.
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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:51 am

Juju would be about the least I sell him at in 1 QB (I don't even consider selling Pat in 2 QB, would need more than what people want to pay, similar to Gurley in standard leagues).

I agree with the notion that after the top 20 are off the board (something like 12 WR and 8 RB) he needs to be taken. In a startup, I've taken guys like Kerryon or Chubb and am disappointed when they fizzle in 2 years. Obviously not saying that will or won't happen to those 2 but you get the idea... Mahomes will be around for a while and that brings a lot of value in dynasty

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Re: Mahomes value - 1 QB league

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:53 am

With OP roster, I'm probably just holding him. No way i would want Dak starting each week and the rest of your roster is fine. Why sell?


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