Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

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Spencer Ware value?

mid to late 1st
5
24%
early 2nd
9
43%
mid to late 2nd
3
14%
keep ware for title run
4
19%
 
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Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby playa_hata » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:48 am

Team 3 in sig 12 team ppr superflex

Hunt owner thinking of trying to cash in on ware before he plays and possibly has a dud game. Im contending and with Hunt I felt confident in winning the league so losing Hunt is a huge hit. Technically Ware isnt his handcuff any more so i dont need to keep the pair together. That being said what is spencer ware's value knowing he's a free agent after this season.
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RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
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QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby AresGodOWar » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:01 am

tbh I think KC resigns him even if they draft a RB or sign a FA , He knows the offence and is a decent RB ,

If they draft a RB he should start again next year just to protect PattyM and keep the offence clicking , If they sign Bell or another good RB then Ware still makes for a decent cheap backup for KC.
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby jeffster » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:53 am

They already had a chance to make Ware their lead guy, and didn't, even after he had some solid production. I fully expect they'll bring in someone else if they know they won't have Hunt. Also, in a superflex league the value of later picks rises because of all those QBs that will be up there.

If I was a contending team this year I would probably pay an early 2nd. He's not worth a 1st.

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Postby Gator Sens » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:19 am

I would say he is an early 2nd right now with not having played a game as a starter yet. His value could go up pretty easily. Unless I had picks to burn, no way I would pay a 1st for Ware

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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby skip » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:58 am

playa_hata wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:48 am what is spencer ware's value knowing he's a free agent after this season.
Other. Even assuming he signs back on with the Chiefs, they will be looking to replace Hunt as the starter, moving Ware back to the correct role as a backup.
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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby Titans95 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:10 am

Ware did an admirable in 2016 as a backup but that's just what he is, a great backup. After a decent season they still felt the need to trade up in the draft to get Hunt. There's a reason for that. Ware isn't THE guy in KC and they don't want him to be. Expect a FA signing or a draft pick to replace Hunt

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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:42 am

As a chiefs fan I would be very hesitant to unload a first for Ware. I think the Chiefs will address the RB position in either free agency or the draft at best Ware is in a time share next season in my opinion.
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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby Tennisbuck » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:43 am

jeffster wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:53 am They already had a chance to make Ware their lead guy, and didn't, even after he had some solid production. I fully expect they'll bring in someone else if they know they won't have Hunt. Also, in a superflex league the value of later picks rises because of all those QBs that will be up there.

If I was a contending team this year I would probably pay an early 2nd. He's not worth a 1st.
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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby AresGodOWar » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:55 am

Ware was very very good as a starter in 2016.

In 2016 Ware avg 97 scrimmage yards per game... In his career Ware has 11 games with over 15 touches. In those games he averages 105 total yards, 5.3 yards per touch, 16.5 fantasy PPG.

And that was with a team that isn't even close to what he has now , All of next year depends on what Ware does reat of the year , If he is a top 5-10 RB then he will be the starter next year.
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby AresGodOWar » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:57 am

Tennisbuck wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:43 am
jeffster wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:53 am They already had a chance to make Ware their lead guy, and didn't, even after he had some solid production. I fully expect they'll bring in someone else if they know they won't have Hunt. Also, in a superflex league the value of later picks rises because of all those QBs that will be up there.

If I was a contending team this year I would probably pay an early 2nd. He's not worth a 1st.
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He was the starter in 2016 then he missed all of 2017 and in 2017 Hunt went off as a rookie he wasn't going to lose the job back to Ware.
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby Titans95 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:59 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:55 am Ware was very very good as a starter in 2016.

In 2016 Ware avg 97 scrimmage yards per game... In his career Ware has 11 games with over 15 touches. In those games he averages 105 total yards, 5.3 yards per touch, 16.5 fantasy PPG.

And that was with a team that isn't even close to what he has now , All of next year depends on what Ware does reat of the year , If he is a top 5-10 RB then he will be the starter next year.
When the chiefs traded up to grab Hunt in the 3rd round of 2016 just about everyone saw the writing on the wall, not it probably wouldn't have happened week 1 if he didn't get hurt but just about everyone believed ware wasn't long for a full time role. Like I said, he's one of the best backup's in the league but he isn't what the Chiefs want out of the RB. In 2016 he also mightily struggled to find the endzone and only had 900 rushing yards. They may not draft a high end RB but they likely repeat what they did with hunt and draft a guy they like in the 2nd or 3rd round and see if they can phase ware back out.


14/47 for 3.4 YPC against the worst team in the NFL isn't going to cut it.

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Re: Ware or 19 First PPR superflex league?

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:50 am

Titans95 wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:59 am
AresGodOWar wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:55 am Ware was very very good as a starter in 2016.

In 2016 Ware avg 97 scrimmage yards per game... In his career Ware has 11 games with over 15 touches. In those games he averages 105 total yards, 5.3 yards per touch, 16.5 fantasy PPG.

And that was with a team that isn't even close to what he has now , All of next year depends on what Ware does reat of the year , If he is a top 5-10 RB then he will be the starter next year.
When the chiefs traded up to grab Hunt in the 3rd round of 2016 just about everyone saw the writing on the wall, not it probably wouldn't have happened week 1 if he didn't get hurt but just about everyone believed ware wasn't long for a full time role. Like I said, he's one of the best backup's in the league but he isn't what the Chiefs want out of the RB. In 2016 he also mightily struggled to find the endzone and only had 900 rushing yards. They may not draft a high end RB but they likely repeat what they did with hunt and draft a guy they like in the 2nd or 3rd round and see if they can phase ware back out.


14/47 for 3.4 YPC against the worst team in the NFL isn't going to cut it.
He looked terrible last night , idk what happen nerves maybe or just rusty , I mean tbh Oak almost beat them lol.. he only got 14 carries and a couple targets though , Never know if the 15th would have been a 50 yard run like most RBs get to make their bad stats look good , It happens so many times a RB at the end of the 4th is avg. 2 ypc and breaks the 50-60 yard TD and everyone forgets he sucked all game :)

Looks like they brought in West to handle 3rd downs and some carries probably
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
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