QB1 for potential?

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QB1 for potential?

Postby JamboMac » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:26 pm

I have been offered Anthony Miller - who I believe has some serious potential going forward - for Carson Wentz.

I have Andy Dalton and Sam Darnold as my other 2, so not much to rely on. But QB’s can usually be easily replaced (unless they’re elite, which Wentz appears to have the makings of).

I made him a counter offer as I said I was unsure what I’d gain from this. I already have quite a deep WR corps but none that really stand out other than maybe Cooper Kupp.

I made an offer for a multi trade.

Wentz, T.Lockett and Seals-Jones

For

Rosen, C.Carson and A.Miller

Even then, I’m loathed to lose a potential elite QB, who puts up regular big numbers.

What would you guys do? Where would you put Wentz in any trade deal?

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QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby mariettajeff » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:34 pm

Need to but league size, starting requirements, etc. in your post, so we can give some-what of an informed opinion. In a vacuum, no I wouldn't trade Wentz for that.
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Wilson, Mahomes
Gurley, David Johnson, Jonathan Taylor, Darrell Henderson
OBJ, Cooks, Fuller, M. Williams, Courtland Sutton, A.J. Brown
Kelce, Dissly
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Balt, Jets

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Allen, Garropolo, Goff
Mixon, Chubb, Mack, Drake,
OBJ, Cooks, Hopkins, Kirk, Miller, A.J. Brown
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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby JamboMac » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:41 pm

12 teams

1QB
1-2RB
3-4WR
1-2TE
1DEF

My team consists of

QB-Wentz, Dalton, Darnold
RB-M.Davies, Fournette, Ingram, Clement, D.Henry, Perine
WR-Kupp, Lockett, John Brown, Westbrook, Ridley, T.Williams, K.Bourne, W.Fuller, L.Treadwell, D.Hamilton
TE-Herndon, H.Henry, Seals-Jones, Gesicki, J.Thomas
PK-Zuerlein
DEF-Bills

Team has taken a battering this year, and I took over from someone who clearly didn’t care. Made a few trades and managed to get a few wins this year, but I’m scoring very low.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby Trevormortis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:59 pm

I don't like either trade for you at all, and I'm a Miller fan as well (as you can see in both my sigs). Not a Carson or Rosen fan though. You can build around Wentz more so than the other pieces.
Team 1. 12 team. 1 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2017 2nd, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2022 1st
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5

Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5

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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby JamboMac » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:23 pm

I’m not a fan of Rosen, but I like Carson, and I have his handcuff too. That was the main thing drawing me in. If it was a straight swap, Wentz for Miller then I would have declined.

I’m just thinking mainly of future now. I have no chance in my league with a couple of guys running away with it. I’ll most likely end up with 1.02 pick in the draft.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby Trevormortis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:24 pm

Red9Devil wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:23 pm I’m not a fan of Rosen, but I like Carson, and I have his handcuff too. That was the main thing drawing me in. If it was a straight swap, Wentz for Miller then I would have declined.

I’m just thinking mainly of future now. I have no chance in my league with a couple of guys running away with it. I’ll most likely end up with 1.02 pick in the draft.
Wentz can play for 12+ years.
Team 1. 12 team. 1 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2017 2nd, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2022 1st
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5

Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5

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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby JDogil12 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:25 pm

Keep Wemtz

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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby vixen » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:37 pm

not even a little close for me...and i have been known to trade QBs
right after last season, i gave Wilson and got Alex Smith and 1st (that is currently 1.01-1.03) in a 1QB league...i drafted Mahomes in the rookie draft and felt pretty confident he could be my starting QB
i don't really like the state of the Cardinals...so i don't think Rosen will be helpful for a year or 2...
if you feel confident in Darnold then trade Wentz...but you need to get a 1st added to Miller to make that trade
i am not a fan of the multi trade either
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby skip » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:39 pm

Terrible on all counts... This is one of those offers you were better to reject with no counter.
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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:58 pm

Red9Devil wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:26 pm I have been offered Anthony Miller - who I believe has some serious potential going forward - for Carson Wentz.

I have Andy Dalton and Sam Darnold as my other 2, so not much to rely on. But QB’s can usually be easily replaced (unless they’re elite, which Wentz appears to have the makings of).

I made him a counter offer as I said I was unsure what I’d gain from this. I already have quite a deep WR corps but none that really stand out other than maybe Cooper Kupp.

I made an offer for a multi trade.

Wentz, T.Lockett and Seals-Jones

For

Rosen, C.Carson and A.Miller

Even then, I’m loathed to lose a potential elite QB, who puts up regular big numbers.

What would you guys do? Where would you put Wentz in any trade deal?

TIA
Give me Wentz for sure over Miller..
I also don't like your counter either because Lockett is a somewhat valuable piece that you're giving up.. Carson has definitely been playing above expectations, but Penny is supposed to be the long-term answer in SEA (if He ever gets a real opportunity) You should be able to get more for a top 2 dynasty QB IMO.
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Young
RB Pierce, Bigsby
WR Johnston, Mingo, Pierce, Marshall, Toney, Perry
TE Freiermuth, Ferguson, Kraft
1.02, 1.03, (5) 24 2nds, (2) 24 3rds, (2) 25 1sts, (3) 25 2nds

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Metcalf, Ridley, Rice
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
DB Smith, Curl, Love, Byard, McKinney

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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby dblj1199 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:27 pm

I’d hold Wentz here. I like Miller, but you have a elite qb set up for the next 10+ years. Unless your blown away I’d pass.
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Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby hoggball » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:16 am

No way i'd trade Wentz for that. Hopefully your trade partner hasn't jumped on your counter. Pull it quickly if he hasn't.
Team 1
2022 Champ, 2018 Undefeated Champ
12 Team Non PPR, yardage bonus, scoring distance bonus
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/
1 FLEX (RB,WR,TE)/1K/1DEF
QBs-Mahomes, GQ
RBs-Kamara, Henry, R White, Foreman, McKinnon
WRs-Adams, Tyreek, Olave, G Davis, Toney
TEs-Kelce

Team 2
12 Team 1 PPR RB/WR,
2.0 PPR TE, yardage bonus, scoring distance bonus
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE
2FLEX(RB,WR,TE)/1K/1DEF
QBs-Dak, Lance, Purdy, Ridder
RBs-Chubb, Swift, Dillon, Etienne, J Cook, Mattison
WRs-Tyreek, AJB, Diggs, OBJ, Olave
TEs-Schultz, Cmet, Otton, Dulcich
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Re: QB1 for potential?

Postby JamboMac » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:19 am

That’s exactly how I was feeling to be honest. I’m new to the dynasty scene though and already made some big mistakes - so wanted some advice to make sure I wasn’t just being silly.

Thanks guys!
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,


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