POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

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Pick a combo

Conner and AJG
8
42%
CMC and Ridley
11
58%
 
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POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby joeday » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:43 pm

In a NON PPR league would you do this...

Give - James Conner and AJ Green
Get - Christian McCaffrey and Calvin Ridley

Current team:
QB - Brees
RB - Gurley, Gordon, Conner
WR - Evans, Edelman (AJG if healthy)
TE - Doyle or Burton
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby CooperCrush » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:47 pm

In non-PPR, definitely Conner side.
Team 1: 1 PPR- 1 qb, 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 d, 1k

QB: Herber, Rodgers, Lawrence
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Walker, J Cook, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Henry
2024 picks: 1.1 and 1.9

Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
25 team rosters

Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas

Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby joeday » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:51 pm

My concern is Bell comes back and it ruins my chance at the title
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby joeday » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:54 pm

I could get Golladay instead of Ridley if I wanted.
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:00 pm

Non PPR dynasty Conner>CMC ya I went there

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby Elroypedro » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:11 pm

This is a good one, with lots of variables:


Conner is a big risk, but we have to think he stays on as starter next year, right?

AJG is a medium risk, and is aging up, so he is a win now piece for next 2 years let’s say.

But for this year. If Bell comes back and Pitt decides to save some of their future back Conner’s legs that alone almost kills your title hopes. And if AJG has surgery or even returns hurt later in year, that at least greatly hurts your title hopes.


McCaffery is basically no risk and is 22. Huge value, both win now and for future, with a very secure situation. Only slight downside is standard, but he has shown this year he isn’t as reliant on PPR as last year, and he seems to be just ramping up in production more and more as season goes.

Ridley is a standard beast, as he does a ton with few targets and receptions, and scores teddies like a champ. But his ceiling isn’t WR1, at least for 3-4 years until Julio slows down, and he is an old rookie. 2 years older than even McCaffery I believe. You can’t necessarily plug and play him for win now production but he is a valuable flex piece based on matchup as of now for a contender and possibly future solid WR2 piece.


I think, because of the risk of Conner and AJG the second half of this year, I would take McCaffery. But Conner and AJG have the higher upside right now and Conner has the highest upside(and risk) for his career out of all four.


TL;DR

Play it safe for high floor win now and for long term future: CMC and Ridley.
Swing for the fences for big risk/big reward for win now: Conner and AJG.
Team 1
10 team .5 PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 1Flex

QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: McCaffery, Guice, D Williams, Breida, Drake, Penny, S Ware, R Jones, J Adams, I Smith
WR: A Brown, Jeffery, Robinson, Ridley, Pettis, Miller, Shepard, Callaway, MVS, Washington
TE: Kelce, Herndon

Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4

*2018 Champ*

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby Goddard » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:09 pm

Even in ppr, Conner is outscoring CMC. The gap between Green and Ridley/Golladay isn't close at all though if you're competing. He'll be back in a few weeks hopefully.

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby joeday » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:12 pm

Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:09 pm Even in ppr, Conner is outscoring CMC. The gap between Green and Ridley/Golladay isn't close at all though if you're competing. He'll be back in a few weeks hopefully.
But the problem is if Bell comes back on Tuesday do we think the Steelers don’t give him 10-15 touches a game really eating into his value? ROS does Conner still outscore CMC?
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:15 pm

id easily take cmc ridley here and feel SAFE.

availability is a gigantic factor this late in the game. week 14 cant have questions about your rb1 and wr1/wr2
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:26 pm

Conner is a far superior runner, it's not even remotely close. Meanwhile AKG is way better than Ridley whom I'm not big on although maybe I'm wrong on that one.

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby Elroypedro » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:37 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:15 pm id easily take cmc ridley here and feel SAFE.

availability is a gigantic factor this late in the game. week 14 cant have questions about your rb1 and wr1/wr2
I happen to agree here, I would take CMC and Ridley. But I am a conservative owner that would rather make the playoffs every year and give myself a shot to win than swing for the fences hoping for a blowout season and sometimes end up holding my dick in my hand at 3-10.
Team 1
10 team .5 PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 1Flex

QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: McCaffery, Guice, D Williams, Breida, Drake, Penny, S Ware, R Jones, J Adams, I Smith
WR: A Brown, Jeffery, Robinson, Ridley, Pettis, Miller, Shepard, Callaway, MVS, Washington
TE: Kelce, Herndon

Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby joeday » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:49 pm

So he didn’t offer it with Ridley but with Kenny Golladay instead
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby Goddard » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:52 pm

joeday wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:49 pm So he didn’t offer it with Ridley but with Kenny Golladay instead
Neither would start for you this year and the goal is to win it all. If you think CMC gives you a better chance at winning over Conner and Green, then make the trade.

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Re: POLL - Help me win the 'ship: CMC vs Conner

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:17 pm

If this was redraft I'd take the Conner side easy.

CMC and Golladay in dynasty? Im all over that. People on here are so ready to sell AJG until this thread popped up lol


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