Help me target Davante or Juju - trade deadline tonight!

[Avery]

Team 2 below.

I'm making a bit of a run and want another WR to improve my chances. I (just about) had a deal for Sanders but was sniped. Now I'm talking to two owners and going big looking at Davante or Juju. Both teams are looking out of it and have many needs.

I see them as just about the same price - Davante is producing better but Juju is 4 years younger.

I know I'll need to make a big offer to get them and thinking about offering:
A. Robinson, D. Goedert, A. Collins + 2019 1st

I think Robinson and Goedert are both worth 1st round picks and Collins is worth a 2nd so the offer amounts to 3 x 1st rounders and 1 x 2nd rounder.

I know this isn't a "blow you away" offer but it is strong enough to be in the conversation?

All opinions appreciated and welcome!

[Jigga94]

Worth a shot for either. I wouldnt get your hopes up though

[killer_of_giants]

I don't see Goedert as a 1st (certainly I wouldn't even think about giving away one to get him), Robinson's stock is very low at the moment and Collins is a marginal addition.

not nearly good enough I'm afraid. I'd want DJ, a 1st and something else to give away Adams or Juju.

but you can always try and start a negotiation...

[Avery]

Worth a shot for either. I wouldnt get your hopes up though

Thanks for chiming in!

So it seems your saying I'm in the range of "not an insulting offer but probably not going to happen"?

[Jigga94]

Worth a shot for either. I wouldnt get your hopes up though

Thanks for chiming in!

So it seems your saying I'm in the range of "not an insulting offer but probably not going to happen"?

Right, like depending on values maybe he likes some of those names or overvalued picks. But if hes rebuilding, I dont think Arob or Collins are of use at all

[Avery]

I don't see Goedert as a 1st (certainly I wouldn't even think about giving away one to get him), Robinson's stock is very low at the moment and Collins is a marginal addition.

not nearly good enough I'm afraid. I'd want DJ, a 1st and something else to give away Adams or Juju.

but you can always try and start a negotiation...

Gotcha and thanks!

Goedert was the 2.06 (and he wasn't making it past 2.07) and I think his value is up since then as we have seen he can play in the NFL (although he is blocked by Ertz at the moment) so maybe a "low 1st" seems right to be there.

Robinson is tricky. DLF has him top 20 dynasty WR and he is still young but people's memories are short and I agree that his perceived value is low right now so you are right that he probably should be a hold.

I added Collins as he would be the top RB on either of their teams and selling them getting a better pick as we play a "toilet bowl" with the teams that didn't make the playoffs for the top pick.

[Avery]

Worth a shot for either. I wouldnt get your hopes up though

Thanks for chiming in!

So it seems your saying I'm in the range of "not an insulting offer but probably not going to happen"?

Right, like depending on values maybe he likes some of those names or overvalued picks. But if hes rebuilding, I dont think Arob or Collins are of use at all

Interesting...

I thought Robinson, given his current injury yet still young age would only be of interest to a rebuilding team.

[BelichekYourSelf]

I wouldn't counter if offered that for my Adams. Dude is a top 5 WR for the next few years. Gunna need more than a WR3, a backup TE and a low end RB2 and a 1st.

If you're serious start out with Robinson, Guice, 2019 1st and 2020 1st.

I paid 5 1sts and 3 2nds for Adams and Derrick Henry at the beginning of the year. And Adams is worth more now than he was then.

[killer_of_giants]

Goedert was the 2.06 (and he wasn't making it past 2.07) and I think his value is up since then as we have seen he can play in the NFL (although he is blocked by Ertz at the moment) so maybe a "low 1st" seems right to be there.

Robinson is tricky. DLF has him top 20 dynasty WR and he is still young but people's memories are short and I agree that his perceived value is low right now so you are right that he probably should be a hold.

I disagree on Goedert, he can play, but won't if Ertz is in front of him. but again is a matter of opinion.

Robinson is still the top target in a developing young offense, and he's a very good player. his value is at its lowest so not much point dealing him away (unless you find someone who likes him and is naive enough to let you know...).

[Avery]

Goedert was the 2.06 (and he wasn't making it past 2.07) and I think his value is up since then as we have seen he can play in the NFL (although he is blocked by Ertz at the moment) so maybe a "low 1st" seems right to be there.

Robinson is tricky. DLF has him top 20 dynasty WR and he is still young but people's memories are short and I agree that his perceived value is low right now so you are right that he probably should be a hold.

I disagree on Goedert, he can play, but won't if Ertz is in front of him. but again is a matter of opinion.

Robinson is still the top target in a developing young offense, and he's a very good player. his value is at its lowest so not much point dealing him away (unless you find someone who likes him and is naive enough to let you know...).

Getting some replies on Robinson from "He is frustrating to own" to "he sucks". There is a strong recency bias so he is clearly a hold. I'll clearly need to go in another direction to try to make this happen.

Thanks!

[FantasyFoosball]

For context, I traded ARob and Alex Collins for Keenan Allen a couple weeks ago.

I don't mind those two and a first for Adams. I think that's fine.

JuJu isn't even the best WR on his team, they are giving Connor a lot of touches, and AB isn't going anywhere. That's too much for him.

[Johnny Canuck]

I doubt it fetches either of them.

Maybe you can get Juju....maybe (but I highly doubt it), but there isn't a snowballs chance in hell you get Adams.

Agree with whoever said try "Robinson, Guice, 2019 1st and 2020 1st"...that's the minimum I'd need, and I prob wouldn't take that for my share of Adams if I was a competing team.

In FF if you're trying to buy a dollar bill, you can't just trade four quarters. You have to overpay with the pieces to get the solo starter.

Even in real life football this is obvs. Would you rather have one Todd Gurley, or a RBBC of Lindsay/Freeman/Booker? the concept is the same. If you want the singular starter you need to pay up.

[Goddard]

Make the offers and see what happens. If anything, swap out Goedert and Collins (or just Collins) and add Mack.

[BigBawseRoss]

I wouldn't counter if offered that for my Adams. Dude is a top 5 WR for the next few years. Gunna need more than a WR3, a backup TE and a low end RB2 and a 1st.

If you're serious start out with Robinson, Guice, 2019 1st and 2020 1st.

I paid 5 1sts and 3 2nds for Adams and Derrick Henry at the beginning of the year. And Adams is worth more now than he was then.

i think everything about this is absurd haha. but we all have our own valuations and strategies!

[metalmat]

I would target Adams but you will need more juice. ARob and Collins are both going downhill in value and Goedert is still the backup to Ertz.