talk me out of it before it's too late

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talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby vixen » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:17 pm

i just made this offer
i give D Freeman, Godwin, 1st and 2nd
i get Conner


talk me out of it?
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby Hindsy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:33 pm

Do not do that.. Conner is good, but that is a damn hefty price to pay.
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QB - Wentz, Danny Dimes, Flacco, Lock
RB - Conner, Samuels, J. White, Breida, Gaskin, Lamar
WR - M. Thomas, Allen, Hardman, C. Samuel, Hollywood Brown, Pascal, A. Tate, KeeSean, Bisi
TE - Hooper, Herndon, Watson
K - Gonzalez
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LB - Leonard, Deion Jones, Hicks
DB - D. James, V. Bell, Collins

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QB - Rivers, Goff, Winston
RB - Barkley, Cook, AP, Lat. Murray, Chris Thompson
WR - Evans, Robert Woods, Cooper, Sutton, Westbrook, PWill, Pascal, Sanu, Reynolds, Ginn
TE - Henry, Njoku, Eifert
K - Gay
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby KillerCroc » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:16 pm

Yeah that's too high of a price,!
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby keebs3 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:17 pm

Man, I tried to sell Conner for so much less than that.. and didn't even get a decent counter.
That's a major overpay- Don't do it!
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:20 pm

Pull that before it's too late that's like 2-3x Conner's value. There aren't many players I wouldn't give you for that price...that's like 4 firsts in value.
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
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Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby Big Al » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:24 am

I agree, you are giving up way to much for Conner.

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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby crip7300 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:24 am

I love Conner but that is a crazy overpay. You are basically giving Freeman and Godwin away for free. Conner is probably worth just the picks here in this deal. Way too much uncertainty surrounding his situation to pay that type of price.
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12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz

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1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock

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QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts

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QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat

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Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift

WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant


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PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby Goddard » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:56 am

Whoa, whoa, whoa...step away from the ledge. If you need the number to the suicide hotline, I can get it for you.

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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby skip » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:09 am

I'm not giving up just Freeman for Conner... This is insanity.
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby Needalife » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:33 am

skip wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:09 am I'm not giving up just Freeman for Conner... This is insanity.
Really? I would do that in a heartbeat. Conner is RB5 at 24ppg. I don't think Freeman is even close to that territory when healthy. I know there is some drama with Le'Veon to factor in, but I think Conner>>>Freeman. Freeman on IR now too hurts. I'm not sure Ito or a newly drafted RB isn't carrying the load for ATL next season. Conner has done nothing but prove he is a no-nonsense punishing RB1 in that offense. Freeman looks done to me.

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Current Production - Conner
Situation - Even
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1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F


QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, Jaylen Warren, Trey Benson, James Conner, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Marquise Brown, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Aaron Donald, Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby skip » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:35 am

Needalife wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:33 am
skip wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:09 am I'm not giving up just Freeman for Conner... This is insanity.
Really? I would do that in a heartbeat. Conner is RB5 at 24ppg. I don't think Freeman is even close to that territory when healthy. I know there is some drama with Le'Veon to factor in, but I think Conner>>>Freeman. Freeman on IR now too hurts. I'm not sure Ito or a newly drafted RB isn't carrying the load for ATL next season. Conner has done nothing but prove he is a no-nonsense punishing RB1 in that offense. Freeman looks done to me.
I view Conner as very much a product of his situation. I question whether or not he has any long term value. If I'm playing merely for the short term, I'd make that trade. But for 2019 and beyond, I'd rather have Freeman.
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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby vixen » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:52 pm

thank you all for the quick responses...i pulled the offer...but my team is really struggling for a RB and i do think he would provide me with a playoff spot....
i still have a couple offers out there...
sending john brown for chris thompson
sending john brown for duke johnson
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:02 pm

vixen wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:52 pm thank you all for the quick responses...i pulled the offer...but my team is really struggling for a RB and i do think he would provide me with a playoff spot....
i still have a couple offers out there...
sending john brown for chris thompson
sending john brown for duke johnson
If you're going to make a crazy offer like that, at least aim higher. You should be able to get a solid starting RB for far less than that. I wouldn't mortgage the future of my team on James Conner's future.

Also...if you're not currently confident you're even going to make the playoffs why massively overpay for a running back only to maybe make the playoffs and then probably lose? I'd never overpay that much for a player, but if I ever did it'd be because I think I'm one piece away from a title, not so I can sneak into the playoffs.
Team 1: 2012-2016
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2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby vixen » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:48 pm

hoos89 wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:02 pm
vixen wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:52 pm thank you all for the quick responses...i pulled the offer...but my team is really struggling for a RB and i do think he would provide me with a playoff spot....
i still have a couple offers out there...
sending john brown for chris thompson this was rejected
sending john brown for duke johnson
If you're going to make a crazy offer like that, at least aim higher. You should be able to get a solid starting RB for far less than that. I wouldn't mortgage the future of my team on James Conner's future.

Also...if you're not currently confident you're even going to make the playoffs why massively overpay for a running back only to maybe make the playoffs and then probably lose? I'd never overpay that much for a player, but if I ever did it'd be because I think I'm one piece away from a title, not so I can sneak into the playoffs.

thanks for the response...i absolutely think i would make the playoffs with another RB
my WRs are incredible...Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Arob....with Boyd, Godwin, JoBrown, Sutton (among others) on the bench
so adding another RB to DJ would put me in a really good place
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: talk me out of it before it's too late

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:37 pm

Why do you feel you need to give up THAT much to get Conner though? And if you need to give up that much for an RB, why does it need to be Conner? Even if the Conner owner is digging in his heels, you should be able to get someone like Collins, White, Cohen, Ingram or Breida for much less OR you should be able to get someone much more valuable for that price. I'd at a minimum ask around to see what the Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, Gordon, CMC, Hunt and Barkley owners think of that price (and frankly you should be able to get some of them for less). I'd be surprised if one of them (particularly a rebuilding team) didn't jump on that.
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Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1


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