New Offer: Michel/MWilliams for Keenan (Old: Golladay/1st for Thielen)

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Keenan
5
36%
Michel, MWilliams
9
64%
 
Total votes: 14

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New Offer: Michel/MWilliams for Keenan (Old: Golladay/1st for Thielen)

Postby nosferatu » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:14 am

Copying my comment from below -

UPDATE: The owner who offered the trade just reversed course, pulled back the offer and made a new one that I find quite a bit more intriguing.

I give: Michel, MWilliams
I get: K. Allen

In a vacuum, I'd take Allen, but I would need to acquire another RB. The bottom teams surprisingly have some of the best RBs and they're available: Hunt, Zeke, Gordon, Johnson, Bell. Is it advisable to make a move that requires another move? My team is holding in 1st with the most points scored as is. I'm not sure of the price to acquire someone of Michel's caliber to replace him.
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For team B, PPR. I love me some Thielen, but I haven't clicked accept. Golladay's arrow continues to point up, and he's 4 years younger. Stand pat?

Give: Golladay, 2019 1st (likely late)
Get: Thielen
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A - 12tm PPR: QB, SFLX, 3RB, 3WR, TE, FLX

QBs: Burrow, Lawrence, Fields, Darnold, Wilson, Rypien
RBs: Dillon, Nwangwu, junk
WRs: Chark, Reagor, Chase, Smith, Bateman, Mooney, Rodgers, Waddle, Preston, Lazard
TEs: Herndon, Freiermuth, Sternberger
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4

B - 12tm PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX (SFLX in 2022)

QBs: Mahomes, Ryan, Eason
RBs: Cook, Jones, Gordon, Robinson, Gibson, Mattison, Harris, Jackson, Hasty, Michel
WRs: Adams, Nuk, Golladay, Boyd, Preston, Shepard, Gage, Harry
TEs: Henry, Ebron, Hurst, Graham
2021: 1.11, 3.11, 4.11 2022: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Golladay/1st for Thielen

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:37 am

I find them pretty equal at this stage, so I wouldn't add a first to the Golladay side. This would be buying Thielen really high imo. His age is a huge factor for me.
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TE - M Andrews | Friermuth

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Re: Golladay/1st for Thielen

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:44 am

Man that's really tough. I love Golladay, but Thielen will likely be a slightly better piece for a contender this year. If you get Thielen, then you have to go all in and upgrade your RB3 and TE too with 2019/2020 picks.
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Re: Golladay/1st for Thielen

Postby jwb32 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:46 am

I'd add a 2nd but I don't think I could part with a 1st here.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: Golladay/1st for Thielen

Postby Goddard » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:52 am

Value seems fair, just not sure you really need Thielen. I'd probably keep the youth, or at least try to use it on someone a little younger.

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Re: Golladay/1st for Thielen

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:56 am

Maybe the Thielen side can add round 2.

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Re: Golladay/1st for Thielen

Postby notweswelker » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:05 am

Because of age Thielen = Golladay.
No way I'm adding a first there.

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Re: Golladay/1st for Thielen

Postby nosferatu » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:08 am

I agree with all the sentiment here. I think the other owner adding a 2nd would make it closer for me, but doesn't really do that much for my team and Golladay is 4 years younger.

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UPDATE: The owner who offered the trade just reversed course, pulled back the offer and made a new one that I find quite a bit more intriguing.

I give: Michel, MWilliams
I get: K. Allen

In a vacuum, I'd take Allen, but I would need to acquire another RB. The bottom teams surprisingly have some of the best RBs and they're available: Hunt, Zeke, Gordon, Johnson, Bell. Is it advisable to make a move that requires another move? My team is holding in 1st with the most points scored as is.
A - 12tm PPR: QB, SFLX, 3RB, 3WR, TE, FLX

QBs: Burrow, Lawrence, Fields, Darnold, Wilson, Rypien
RBs: Dillon, Nwangwu, junk
WRs: Chark, Reagor, Chase, Smith, Bateman, Mooney, Rodgers, Waddle, Preston, Lazard
TEs: Herndon, Freiermuth, Sternberger
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4

B - 12tm PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX (SFLX in 2022)

QBs: Mahomes, Ryan, Eason
RBs: Cook, Jones, Gordon, Robinson, Gibson, Mattison, Harris, Jackson, Hasty, Michel
WRs: Adams, Nuk, Golladay, Boyd, Preston, Shepard, Gage, Harry
TEs: Henry, Ebron, Hurst, Graham
2021: 1.11, 3.11, 4.11 2022: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: New Offer: Michel/MWilliams for Keenan (Old: Golladay/1st for Thielen)

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:39 am

go get allen before that deal is gone too
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: New Offer: Michel/MWilliams for Keenan (Old: Golladay/1st for Thielen)

Postby nosferatu » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:26 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:39 am go get allen before that deal is gone too
Too good of a deal? Puts my team in an odd spot at RB.
A - 12tm PPR: QB, SFLX, 3RB, 3WR, TE, FLX

QBs: Burrow, Lawrence, Fields, Darnold, Wilson, Rypien
RBs: Dillon, Nwangwu, junk
WRs: Chark, Reagor, Chase, Smith, Bateman, Mooney, Rodgers, Waddle, Preston, Lazard
TEs: Herndon, Freiermuth, Sternberger
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4

B - 12tm PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX (SFLX in 2022)

QBs: Mahomes, Ryan, Eason
RBs: Cook, Jones, Gordon, Robinson, Gibson, Mattison, Harris, Jackson, Hasty, Michel
WRs: Adams, Nuk, Golladay, Boyd, Preston, Shepard, Gage, Harry
TEs: Henry, Ebron, Hurst, Graham
2021: 1.11, 3.11, 4.11 2022: 1, 2, 3, 4


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